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    Having not read the original post I feel i'm extremely qualified to weigh in here...

    I think that people are entitled to buy and sell anything for whatever they like - if the buyer and seller are both happy to accept/pay that price then it's all good - unless we are talking about a monopoly etc but in the case of wood it's a pretty free market.

    On that note, I just paid $250- for a bit of green blackwood at about $22000 per cubic. Do I feel ripped off? No. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.

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    There is nothing complicated here if you don't like the price don't buy it

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    I for one wished there was more options for timber listed on the forum, if the sellers were making “good”, “great” or “too much” money I would expect an endless number of listings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rwbuild View Post
    Seeing as how you are so adamant about being ripped off, you go buy the equipment, go fell and mill the timber, transport it, market it, sit on 80% of it until someone buys it and make a living out of it, sick pay, holidays, holding charges, breakages, repairs, tax man, etc and then come back to us with your fair market price.....
    Good point!

    Another consideration is that many hobby wood workers do not want large volumes of timber, so are not valued customers in traditional timber yards. They however are appreciative of the fact that there are other woodies who have outlaid the time, effort, and money to salvage / recover / fell then process timber then are prepared to outlay more time to process orders for small volumes or hobby quantities.

    Many do not have the skills, equipment, available time, access, resources, or physical ability to process the wood themselves.

    So a commensurate price premium seems a fair call to me.

    Having purchased timber on the forum from quite a number of forumites, I have never felt "ripped off" quite the opposite in fact as all have been honest, fair and have "thrown in a bit extra." Thanks guys, I appreciate your efforts and offerings.
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    A piece of timber is valued several times over before it falls into the hands of the consumer. As a standing tree, as a mill log, sawn wholesale, sawn retail and value added. Each of these processes are necessary, requiring both labour and equipment. In many cases, we are talking a dwindling resource as our old growth forests become less available. IMHO quality should carry a premium. Respect is a dismissive in our throw away society of today.

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    Looks like I missed a fantastic OP! Shame it's been deleted.

    There is an absolutely outstanding thread with an equally illuminating post from a Real Miller who goes right over the costs or feeling and cutting a tree for market. Man, talk about no profit!!

    Without having had the opportunity to read the OP, my personal opinion is that timber is bloody cheap.

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    There are a lot of variables that come into play when determining the worth of a piece of timber...

    Species availability(is it scarce?)
    Type of cut (quarter/rift or flat sawn)
    Quality of cut...will one lose much volume when it is dressed for use.
    Seasoned or G.O.S...and if there are defects present.
    Width and thickness.
    Figure and aesthetics (is the piece highly figured...fiddleback,curl etc!
    Quantity purchased...small or bulk orders.
    Old growth/New growth or plantation.
    Locally sourced or imported.

    A premium piece of wood will invariably always attract a premium price...MM
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    Like all commodities, a piece of timber is worth what someone is willing to pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    Looks like I missed a fantastic OP! Shame it's been deleted.
    The gist of it was: "timber being sold by members on the forum is too expensive and people are being ripped off" and the example given was one of the current market place ads.

    Some people ran the math and it turns out that the asking price is actually lower than the OP's list of prices he used to pay and that he was talking crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    Like all commodities, a piece of timber is worth what someone is willing to pay
    Correct...and if it is 'Premium' quality,they will most likely pay a 'Premium' price...simple...MM
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    I put an ad up at $4.9k a cube (i think). For clean and clear, thicknessed, old growth Oregon, 130x6x6meters, 26 pieces. No one was interested. The amount of timber lost thru processing to a thicknessed state adds to the price, as its wasteful. I would have thought it would be snapped up for paneling purposes. Not a nibble. You can't buy bunnings pine for that, so its not all bad. I ended up selling it on gumtree for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton1 View Post
    I put an ad up at $4.9k a cube (i think). For clean and clear, thicknessed, old growth Oregon, 130x6x6meters, 26 pieces. No one was interested. The amount of timber lost thru processing to a thicknessed state adds to the price, as its wasteful. I would have thought it would be snapped up for paneling purposes. Not a nibble. You can't buy bunnings pine for that, so its not all bad. I ended up selling it on gumtree for more.
    No you can't buy nothing at Bunnings for a good price and neither can you buy anything at Paradise Timbers for a good price. Still at some timber yards I can buy at lower prices, but I buy roughsawn. How many timbers on this forum is sold roughsawn and come to think of it how many are actually dry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by section1 View Post
    No you can't buy nothing at Bunnings for a good price and neither can you buy anything at Paradise Timbers for a good price. Still at some timber yards I can buy at lower prices, but I buy roughsawn. How many timbers on this forum is sold roughsawn and come to think of it how many are actually dry?
    There is plenty of rough sawn and dry material sold on this forum. What is the point you are trying to get across?

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    Quote Originally Posted by section1 View Post
    How many timbers on this forum is sold roughsawn and come to think of it how many are actually dry?
    Plenty. Just at a quick glance, the first 10 listings in the timber section are ALL dry and the 5 of them that are not small offcuts are ALL rough sawn

    I think it might be time to let this one go. Your first set of arguments were dismantled pretty quickly, your new ones aren't doing much better.

    If you have a bone to pick with someone this isn't the place for it and if you have a point to make you're not doing a very good job.

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    I try to make an effort to sell my parcels of Sheoak dry , dressed and fault free hopefully value for money , of the $50 price I`d be lucky to clear between $5 - $10. The Lace is rarer so the price is higher.
    Thank you all the formites who have bought from me, all feedback has been positive and I`ll have the Lamborghini paid off in a little under 200 years

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