Thread: TS noise problem

I agree with Groggy's proposition that I may not have given enough consideration to the neighbour's attitude ... but we have to recognise that after basic needs of food, shelter and family, a fundamental human desire is for peace and quiet in our own homes.

Sturdee, you're wrong to suggest that working within EPA guidelines is responsible. Those guidelines limit the exposure of noise that may cause damage ... they dont' control basic good manners and neighbourly behaviour ... that is down to us, as a reflection of our own characters.

If HSL is living in semi-detached housing, here is what I think he should do:

1. Join a woodworking club, mens' shed or similar; and use their facilities for heavy machining of stock etc.

2. Take up hand tool woodworking - perhaps supported by OCCASIONAL use of hand-held power tools - for stock joining, assembly, finishing etc.

You're (collectively) just going to create trouble and angst for the poor bugger if you persist in pushing him into confrontation with his neighbours.

Honestly, carpet, rubber pads, etc., are all pathetic solutions. They're not going to solve the problem of being too close to one's neighbours. The ONLY solution is to remove the source of the noise.

Originally Posted by Ron Dunn

The ONLY solution is to remove the source of the noise.

Don't necessarily agree with that Ron, that it's the ONLY solution. But it's a solution.

But HS, if you're concerned, and it seems you are because you are worrying about it even though the neighbours have stopped complaining, remember that sound conducts through fixed structure. That is, if a Gyprock wall (for example) is attached to studs which are attached to an adjoining brick wall, that's what will conduct the sound. Gyprock to stud to bricks. No amount of insulation between the studs will stop it. If that course is taken the stud wall should be built with a sound gap between it and the bricks. Then insulation can be added because it's not fixed to the structure. That will do it but it's not cheap. I know you are mindful of costs as we've had the discussion about the cost of the saw in the first place.

So the first strategy is to understand the neighbours key concerns re time of day etc, and try and work around them. After that, you may have to take other methods.

Get him over for an afternoon and if he's any sort of bloke he'll be doing the hobby with you.

Originally Posted by Ron Dunn

Sturdee, you're wrong to suggest that working within EPA guidelines is responsible. Those guidelines limit the exposure of noise that may cause damage ...

Sorry, but you are wrong. It is not a guideline to limit the exposure of noise that may cause damage, BUT the law in regards to the noise you can make using power tools.

You are totally wrong to even suggest that obeying the law is being unreasonable.

BTW HS local men's shed is not something he could join as he would need to be referred to it by the Manningham Health Service, as it is run for older people and with disabilities.

Next you'll suggest that we need a guy walking in front of our cars with a red flag so that the horses won't get frightened.


Peter.

Current Affairs often air a neighbor from hell... nothing you can do will appease them. So the decision is to bend to their will or go your way and have an enemy. If they are complaining about a TS what about when the router and thicknesser are started.
les

Actually the time limits are the minimum requirement for those tools ie they are absolutely banned outside those times. At all other times they need to comply with the EPA laws. In vic this states:

http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/noise/resi...ential.asp#law

Residential noise and the law

Section 48A of the Environment Protection Act 1970 makes it an offence to cause unreasonable noise from any residential premises. Residential noise may be unreasonable at any time of the day, depending on its volume, intensity, duration, time, place and other circumstances.
The Environment Protection (Residential Noise) Regulations 1997 list specific types of equipment and times their use is prohibited. The times depend on the type of equipment being used and the day of the week; however, some equipment may still be too loud even when used during the appropriate times.

Forumites I have quoted the question below, maybe we need to read it again!Mate, try your best to reduce the noise at source however you can. See my previous post. If you can get the noise level less at the source all the other measures that you take will be more effective, including discussing your perceived noise problem with the neighbour before he can start complaining.Anyways this thread is getting boring and the haggling between members about rules, rights etc is not going to help the mans problems. Its between him and his neighbour to sort out what works for them!Cheers all, have fun, I'm off to bed!

Originally Posted by haosiliu235

I got my first TS today MJ2325B . but after using it for a while in the garage I got complaints from the neighbors. I tried closing the garage door, but it didn't seem to help.

does any have the same problem...and what does people do about it.

cheers

Another small suggestion - put your wood storage against the shared wall. If you are not using the garage for a car, or if there is room on the shared side, put your storage shelves against that wall too - it will reduce but not stop the noise a bit more.

Even hand tools can be annoying - whack, whack, thud, scream, thud, crash.