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Thread: TSC-10HB versus Jet Supersaw
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22nd April 2006, 02:37 PM #1Member
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TSC-10HB versus Jet Supersaw
I would appreciate comments on my problem in choosing between a Carbatech 10 inch saw, the TSC-10HB and the Jet Supersaw, also 10 inch, with a sliding table added. I will buy an after-market mitre guage for the 10HB to improve cross cutting. I have come down to this choice based on reputation, cost and availability. The Jet saw will be about $400 more with the sliding table.
I am attracted by the sliding table but also like the stronger motor and (presumably) trunions and belt drive of the 10HB, particularly for Australian hardwoods. The JET has a 1.75 motor vs 3 hp for the Carbatech saw.
Has anyone had experience of using an aftermarket mitre guage like a Kreg or an Incra on the 10HB and also experience of the power of the JET and the accuracy of its mitre guage.
Any other comments would be welcome.
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22nd April 2006, 03:26 PM #2
Hey,
What are the prices on them. At a guess I would say;
Jet $2400
TSC10HB $1499
Contractors $1150
On those guessed prices the TSC wins IMO - nice power, good basic features, good feedback on forum.
Cant go wrong with TSC, but I would just looooooooooooove a supersaw!
dazzler
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22nd April 2006, 06:57 PM #3Member
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The Supersaw is $2,300 with a sliding table, and the TSC-10 is $1,875 ish with a good aftermarket mitre guage.
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22nd April 2006, 08:49 PM #4Member
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Hi,
I have the TSC10HB and am extremely pleased with it. I added an incra se 1000 mitre guage (about 220) off ebay and it is great. The accurracy, repeatability and ease of set up is great. I bought some incra track when building my router table and use the mitre guage on that as well.
I have just added my triton extension table as per sturdee's instructions. Now there isn't anything I cant imagine being able to do!!
I can't comment on the Jet but I'm sure they are great too. It depends on what's available where you live (as freight can be a killer - it added $110 to my saw straight up) I'm pretty sure you have to factor in the cost of a blade with the TSC10HB
I suppose for the TSC10HB it does add up - price plus blade plus gauge plus mobile base (plus possibly freight). For me it has been money well spent
Cheers
Jock
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22nd April 2006, 09:09 PM #5.
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Only those who have used both for a good period can answer this question. Ive never used a 10HB but have used the Jet every day for the last 10 months. Its a fantastic saw that oozes quality and with out the sliding table (a waste of space anyway) is around $1700. The only thing that is no good is the motor, it has about as much heart as the average collingwood footballer. Im in the process of swapping it for a 3hp, then the super saw will be just that. Super
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22nd April 2006, 10:04 PM #6Originally Posted by Lignum
More powerful and cheaper
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22nd April 2006, 11:46 PM #7
hang out until Carbatec have their sale in May and you should save at least 10%.
That should help with the freight or a better blade.
Concern about the lower HP of the Jet was the clincher for me.Scally
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23rd April 2006, 12:55 AM #8.
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Originally Posted by dazzler
The Super Saw is so well made and the quality is sensational, and if jet put a 3hp into it the cost would start to go up into the next bracket. And its nothing to get a high quality Aussie 3HP and put it in your self down the track if you find it under powered. In the last 4 weeks ive ripped well inexcess of 3000 mt of tas oak and its not the Jets fault it struggles, but mine for expecting it to do something it wasnt made for. I bet the majority of super saw users wouldnt have an issue with the power. I have absoulutly NO hesitation recomending this saw. Its as good as youl get with a budget saw
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23rd April 2006, 09:30 AM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Wolfs,
Maybe look to second hand - alot better quality machinery - if a new SCM MiniMax 4s(?) costs in the range of $4000, you'ld be looking at about $2k for a good machine.
Here's a couple of places to start.
I've used
Diverse machinery (Michael - 97553411/0414 239830) and found him to be excellent.
As well, here's some others from experience, marked with a (*) and equally good reputation
www.usedmachineryptyltd.com (*)
http://www.sawmillservices.com/equipment.htm - mainly larger end stuff, but worth an ask
the trading post (is the address www.tradingpost.com.au ?)
www.machineryhouse.com.au (*)
A-Class woodworkingmachinery - Stuart - 02.45773685 (*)
As always, the tradeoff against quality at the right price is waiting until a unit becomes available; and that people rarely sell excellent machines second-hand. (but, being trade background here, the machines you originally specified would be outdone by what's available second-hand)
Cheers,
eddie
edit: someone was looking for a SSB saw (vertical panel saw)
Here's one: http://www.sawmillservices.com/equipment.htm#Wallsaws
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23rd April 2006, 12:23 PM #10Senior Member
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I have never used a Jet, but i have the 10HB. I am very happy with it. There are definitly no complaints from me! It is very solid and well built, and and easy to use. the motor has plenty of power. (have u got a 15amp power point?)
As others have said u can alwasy add a triton sliding table to it, if u really need one. Or even get the Carbatec sliding table they have for the 10HB.
Also if you need a router table the you can get a router wing for the 10HB so it can be used as a router table. very handy if u have limited space.
Overall i am very happy with the 10HB. I guess it comes down to the Motor size, and price, and also wehther u really want a sliding table.
Does the Jet come with a good mitre gauge, or will that need to be swapped for a incra as well? that might also need to be factored in.
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24th April 2006, 11:39 PM #11Senior Member
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tsc 10 HB vs jet supersaw
I may be repeating myself - my reply seems to be lost - but I am happy with the supersaw having cut 40mm jarrah I have not experienced any hp problems.
regards,Smithy
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24th April 2006, 11:57 PM #12
A good test would be to install a dado set and take a full width deep cut... see if it bogs down?
I know the tsc10hb can handle a 18x40mm(WxD) dado cut without bogging down in crapiarta.(at a fair feed rate too)....................................................................
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25th April 2006, 12:11 AM #13
And the TSC is BLUE
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25th April 2006, 10:03 PM #14
NOOOOO ORANGE!
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26th April 2006, 11:37 AM #15
I can't compare - I have the TSC-10HB and I have only seen pictures of the Jet. But my 2p worth is that I don't believe it is mandatory to replace the mitre gauge. I put a simple extension on it and it is OK. I'm not sure it is necessary to factor a $200+ upgrade into the price of the TSC.
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