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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by vsquizz
    Is that a Massey 35?

    Hire shops have pallet lifters, like a forklift but manual operated. Make sure you pride and joy arrives on a pallet and no worries if there is no stairs . They'll handle up to about 1/2 tonne (check). My arrangement is going to require 3 sheets of plywood across the front law....sandpit to get to the new shed. Otherwise call up a skyhook.

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    he kindly helps me move all my machinery.
    570KG Tablesaw was a bit of a problem.
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    Default Unloading new machinery

    Bloke who delivered my 10hb unloaded it easily from his small truck using a hoist. It was awkward getting it off the pallet, but once off and assembled it's easy using the fence bars to tilt it enough to get a bit of pipe under it (needs to be 50mm diameter or so) and roll it around the workplace. Two bits of pipe work better. Stairs I would not know how to tackle.

    Good luck,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Different
    vsquizz Yep a 1961 Massey Furguson 35 Delux nicknamed"Harry"
    he kindly helps me move all my machinery.
    Lovely, as a kid I really enjoyed the power steering and the suspension seat.
    Squizzy

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    I'm getting a bit worried now. I don't have a tractor or other lifting devices. Must check with the supplier and get some packaging information. Maybe I got to buy a few cans of spinach.
    ernknot

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    You will never have a better reason to have the mates around for a BBQ and i few tinnies....consider the problem a blessing.

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    Cheers lads...thats great info...just got to get the funds from the boss to build the shed, then comes the machinery.

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    Perthite,
    Good idea, all I gotta do is make sure the delivery date is firm. Takes a while to get the fellers organised, even for BBQ and liquid steak.
    ernknot

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    Depending on whether you have it strapped down or not, either consider using a furniture dolly or applicance dolly.

    For definition purposes, a furniture dolly is a square platform with 4 wheels under it. An applicance dolly is a 2 wheeler with a belt able to move things, with some extra belt track on the back to help get up or down stairs.

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    Thought I better give an update on my really hard situation...I got purchase order in to build reasonable size 50 m2 shed....then 3 kids came along!

    Anyway with kids, no time available for interior of shed except approval for 2nd purchase order to fit out said shed with 80amp of supply..could not get 3phase past the chief accountant...bugger.

    in the past month I got my third purchase order for 3k to spend on a machine or 2...so what do I do..start looking at combination machines in 5k bracket...manage to convince chief accountant this will save money in long run, I get approval to spend 5k...but now the I dropped the bombshell that if I spend 5.5k I get this super grouse Robland X31 combination in smick condition....I can see chief buckling and she signs off the purchase order....then I drop the next bombshell...I have to get a decent dust extractor to match the new robland...with much reluctance chief acountant also approved purchase order of 1600CFM industrial dust extractor...second hand for another $200.

    So now I have the terrible task of setting up/playing with my new kit.

    Now I bet you are all thinking...you lucky bugger getting this nice kit..I bet he is spending hours..no days fine tuning..looking and generally carresing my new toys....

    ...well the day it was delivered..I rebroke my collar bone...was in hospital for next 3 days...now have arm in sling...cant even left my youngest child up to change nappy(not all bad) but this also means I cannot play with my new stuff for at least another 6 weeks!

    oh well..I have time to plan the first project..maybe a homemade cheval mirror for the chief accountant

    oh so back to my original issue...the robland weighed 530kgs and was delivered by dude with a pallet jack...direct into my shed..and because I cant do anything due to broken shoulder..my bro in law, sister and chief accountant, all worked to get the machine off the pallet and onto concrete, all with me supervising from a distance!

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    Also should mean you do not have to approach the cashier for further credit for a time.

    Wish you a quick recovery.
    woody U.K.

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    I recently had a similar problem with a new Carbatec 15" thicknesser. C'tec loaded the crate onto my mate's van with a forklift. We had to get it off at my place. That's when we realised what 290kg feels like. To make matters worse, the floor of the van is carpeted, so the crate would not even slide to the back, where we had a couple of aluminium planks rigged to hopefully slide it down into my workshop. Eventually, we dismantled the crate in situ, removed all the loose bits from the package, and 'walked' the machine corner by corner towards the planks. (I reckon it still weighed about 250kg). Walking/sliding it down the planks was a little exciting, but we eventually achieved it, after one and a half hours of wrestling. Made me remember what my Dad used to say: Bite off more than you can chew, and then chew like b*gg*ry. But I think that I might stick to hand tools from here on. The thicknesser really made me feel my age.

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    IMO awkward or heavy gear is best moved by as many able bodied mates you can find. My table saw & jointer were moved by big son, big son-in-law, a mate & another old fa*t like me. You can't beat manpower for flexibility and the bonus is a few beers with them afterwards.

    If the situation could be dangerous,like up or down stairs, I have found that the local piano movers are surprisingly cheap for an hour's work.

    Mick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    IMO awkward or heavy gear is best moved by as many able bodied mates you can find. My table saw & jointer were moved by big son, big son-in-law, a mate & another old fa*t like me. You can't beat manpower for flexibility and the bonus is a few beers with them afterwards.

    If the situation could be dangerous,like up or down stairs, I have found that the local piano movers are surprisingly cheap for an hour's work.

    Mick
    Agree, agree! I just had a Machinery Moving BBQ and I called it that blatantly and made clear: no beer until after lifting. My stuff (surprisingly similar list to some above: approx. 250kg 12" table saw, 80kg jointer, unspecified wieght thicknesser) was under next door's house. We drove a ute down the driveway, carried the TS out and lifted onto the ute directly + other stuff (probably 10-15m trip) and then drove around next door and parked ute half way down hilly driveway and did the lifting off etc in reverse and set it up on my slab. Amazing what a few able bodies can do-much easier than I anticipated. I paid in sausages and beer. Easy!

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    I've got the answer to this. I had a serious problem. 700+kgs of Hammer C31 combination machine with the big extension table. On wheels, but I was transporting it from Wagga Wagga and then had to get it down our steep gravel driveway and into the garage. No chance to wheel it down on its own wheels, and backing something down the drive still wouldn't solve the problem of getting it off.

    So I rang my local Kennards and described the problem. They said "what you need is a telehandler." So I rented a 1-ton ute from them, drove to Wagga, got the machine on the ute via forklift (nice level drive-in workshop), then headed home. Made sure Kennards knew what day and rough time I was due home, and had the telehandler booked in advance - rang them 30 minutes from home and asked them to send it out to our place.

    I'd just finished a cuppa at home when a big truck arrived with a "thing" on the back. The "thing" was the telehandler - a 4WD fork lift with a chassis like a flexible grader and a forklift that can extend, tilt anywhich way, and can carry up to 2500kg. The driver went to the back of the ute, very easily put the Hammer onto the telehandler, we strapped it on with rachet straps, then he drove down the driveway, extended the fork into the garage and gently placed my new toy on the concrete. Took about 20 minutes from the time the truck arrived, and Kennards charged me one hour rental (includes travel time to and fro), which was $160.

    No matter how many mates you've got, getting 700kg off the back of a ute is hard. With one of these it was a piece of cake. So if you've got a Kennards within hooey, that's the go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa View Post



    and Kennards charged me one hour rental (includes travel time to and fro), which was $160.
    That is a good price considering it also included the operator. Also would have saved a lot of stress and sweat.

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