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    I use a very old fashioned cleaning method on my wooden cutting boards.
    Wet the surface and sprinkle with salt. Scrub it in and let dry. Rinse off next morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Australia only has 2 levels of government, as per the constitution. The 3rd (is local government) is illegal.
    Totally Off Topic, but what the heck ...

    Australia generally has three levels of Government,
    1. The states which are sovereign entities, each with its own constitution and parliamentary structure.

    2. The Commonwealth which only has those sovereign powers delegated to it by the original states. Unfortunately (?) the states can't take those delegated powers back (The Commonwealth also has a tour bus load of quasi powers which it exercises through its control of the money supply and most taxes.)

    3. Then there is "local government". Local government is a creation of each state and can be modified and pushed around by the creator state.

    And not to be forgotten are the territories. ACT, Northern Territory, Cocos-Keeling Islands, Christmas Island, Heard Island, Antarctic Territory and Norfolk Island (though this one might "officially" be a former territory). The territories can be pushed around by the Federal Government as it sees fit.

    And lastly, there are entities like Strata boards and Community Title boards which get to control "common property" inside some developments. I understand that in NSW at least one "community title authority" is responsible for maintenance of the public roads within its area, although the local council collects rates for that specific purpose. Go figure.


    In respect to the Australian Constitution, the core thing to remember is that it is an upwards delegation of power (from the states) and, except for stuff covered by the various clauses of the constitution, the states are separate sovereign entities.
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    I'm with onetrack.
    I've had food poisoning from some fish before. You won't believe how weak you become within 24 hours until it happens to you. Within 12 hours it took all my strength just to be transported to a doctor. That was just regular food poisoning for a fit young male.(at the time). Imagine if you were elderly and couldn't get to a hospital.

    After that I suddenly understood why coloera kills so many people so quickly.


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    There is a critical point I think everyone has missed. If you look at the second picture in the story, you will notice there is a split running from the handle into the serving board. That is the #1 reason for blaming the board. The split enables food and other dirt to collect and promote bacterial growth. Here in the USA (and I am sure in Aussieland) this board would automatically be banned from further use. The health industry bans anything that cannot be cleaned easily and properly, including some dented items and items with rough or hard to clean surfaces. (Disposable pans may be used once, but not reused.) Also cutting boards and other wooden utensils must be discarded when the wood becomes worn and deteriorated and the surface becomes eroded. So the real problem relating to the serving platter is the fact that the crack is a breeding place for bacteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wood2woodknot View Post
    There is a critical point I think everyone has missed. If you look at the second picture in the story, you will notice there is a split running from the handle into the serving board. That is the #1 reason for blaming the board. The split enables food and other dirt to collect and promote bacterial growth. Here in the USA (and I am sure in Aussieland) this board would automatically be banned from further use. The health industry bans anything that cannot be cleaned easily and properly, including some dented items and items with rough or hard to clean surfaces. (Disposable pans may be used once, but not reused.) Also cutting boards and other wooden utensils must be discarded when the wood becomes worn and deteriorated and the surface becomes eroded. So the real problem relating to the serving platter is the fact that the crack is a breeding place for bacteria.
    I didn't miss it ...that's why I called it manky!
    And yes it is a critical point...food will find it's way into the cracks and go rancid
    But some choose to argue that it isn't a problem or issue ...they are wrong in that assertion...MM
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    I thought people had noticed the crack and were not arguing about the need to throw that one away. I got the impression that some people realised that running a small business is a lot of work and owners can get overwhelmed and fail to keep up in certain respects. Sometimes they just might need more reminding or a push to remember this issue is important.
    Of course I guess there are a few people that just can't be told but that didn't seem to be the case in this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Totally Off Topic, but what the heck ...

    Australia generally has three levels of Government,
    1. The states which are sovereign entities, each with its own constitution and parliamentary structure.

    2. The Commonwealth which only has those sovereign powers delegated to it by the original states. Unfortunately (?) the states can't take those delegated powers back (The Commonwealth also has a tour bus load of quasi powers which it exercises through its control of the money supply and most taxes.)

    3. Then there is "local government". Local government is a creation of each state and can be modified and pushed around by the creator state.
    Following is a excerpt from Professor Anne Twomey, advisor to the Commonwealth on Constitutional matters.

    For some reason I cannot post a picture of the required section, but following is a brief extract:

    The Commonwealth Constitution establishes Australia’s federal system.
    It is a classic dualist federal system,3in which powers and functions are allocated to two levels ofgovernment, with local governments being ‘mere creatures of states, existing at their will and having no independent relations with the federal government’.4
    https://sydney.edu.au/content/dam/co...t-A-Twomey.pdf

    There are other quotes from Quick & Garran, which stipulate that Municipalities are a department of the State much like police, health, schools etc. With this background, it is a misnomer to refer to councils as local governments in the true sense of the word. For some reason, I can't upload them .

    Apologies to the OP. This topic probably deserves it's own thread.

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    Some people just can’t take advice. Look at how many of these have been repeatedly fined.
    http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/...A,Offence_City

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    I would not be happy eating off any cracked or otherwise mistreated platter, whether it be plastic, china, metal or timber.

    The material makeup of that platter is pretty much irrelevant provided that it is a known, easily sanitised material. (It can be argued that you can never be sure the timber used is food-safe, but how do you KNOW that the glaze used on cheap Chinese-made dinner plates is non-toxic? How do you KNOW that the metal plate in front of you doesn't contain unsafe levels of heavy metals?)

    I'm thinking the headline is merely a biased attention grabber. Click-bait misinformation.

    I'd like to believe that the council actually made it's decision because of the damage and not some misbelief that timber plates are intrinsically unhealthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Following is a excerpt from Professor Anne Twomey, advisor to the Commonwealth on Constitutional matters.

    For some reason I cannot post a picture of the required section, but following is a brief extract:

    There are other quotes from Quick & Garran, which stipulate that Municipalities are a department of the State much like police, health, schools etc. With this background, it is a misnomer to refer to councils as local governments in the true sense of the word. For some reason, I can't upload them .

    Apologies to the OP. This topic probably deserves it's own thread.
    Yes apologies to the OP for departing so far from the topic.

    Anne Twomey's comments need to be read in the context of incorporating "local government" within the Australian constitution -- an action that many mayors and councilors favour as they erroneously believe that being recognised within the constitution would insulate them from "government interference".
    In my opinion, to bring municipal government into the Australian Constitution would require a total rewrite of the constitution and Australia's system of government. Something that isn't going to happen before we as a community solve indigenous recognition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cava View Post
    Australia only has 2 levels of government, as per the constitution. The 3rd (is local government) is illegal.
    Try toi get our not so august and often corrupt local government mayors and councilors to believe that!!

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    Default Another Positive Article

    With quotable material... for those who make chop/serving boards and want some authoritative quotable material to slap down the idiots...

    Health and safety issues to consider when eating food served on wooden boards - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    With quotable material... for those who make chop/serving boards and want some authoritative quotable material to slap down the idiots...

    Health and safety issues to consider when eating food served on wooden boards - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    The only thing I don't agree with in that article is constantly putting the platters in a dishwasher as long term it will "furr" the surface and generate cracks.
    Hot water wash with a detergent and a scrubbing brush and air drying is all that should be needed.

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