Thread: Ouchi oire-nomi

Hi Mark

I have both and must firstly s that your can't go wrong with either.

Both are considered mid range chisels with Ouhci being more upper mid and probably the most expensive chisel you would most likely "work" with and not just play.

Overall fit and finish are remarkably similar but when comes to flattening the backs, the Ouchi's retain a far superior ura; a sign that the maker knows his craft! Also the handles are well selected.

I have noticed that the Hagane of the Koyamaici's wrap more consistently up he sides of he chisels than do the Ouchi's, that's not say that Mr Ouchi doesn't do good job because he does, in fact a superb job as is testified by the four sets of chisels I am proud to own of his,but it is just this the Koyamaichi slightly more even and symmetrical.

My favourite Ouchi is the Yama-ari Kaku-uchi, followed by the Umeki, but this is a personal choice.

If you want to buy from the best dealer on the, you can not do better than Stu at "Tools from Japan" who sells both and will advise honestly.

Hi cedro

If you are in the market for Ouchi I have a 3mm, 6mm, 9mm & 12mm Yama-ari oire-nomi they are good for Dovetailing as they have 75° side angles that have no 'square' shoulders. I also have two Ouchi mortise chisels at 9mm and 12mm. All with red wood oak handles. All chisels have been setup and have had limited use i.e. less then 5 sharpening's and are in excess of my needs.

I am willing to part with them at a discount. Stu is selling them the Yama-ari - 3mm @ $90, 6mm @ $97, 9mm $99 & 12mm @ $103 and the mortise are sold for $100 each. I am willing to part with the 3mm @ $67.5, 6mm @ $72.75, 9mm @ $74.25, 12mm @ $77.25, the 9mm & 12mm mortice for $75 each. A 25% discount.

I am in Coburg you are welcome to come around to check them out.

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Originally Posted by drmark67

Hi Mark

I have both and must firstly s that your can't go wrong with either.

Both are considered mid range chisels with Ouhci being more upper mid and probably the most expensive chisel you would most likely "work" with and not just play.

Overall fit and finish are remarkably similar but when comes to flattening the backs, the Ouchi's retain a far superior ura; a sign that the maker knows his craft! Also the handles are well selected.

I have noticed that the Hagane of the Koyamaici's wrap more consistently up he sides of he chisels than do the Ouchi's, that's not say that Mr Ouchi doesn't do good job because he does, in fact a superb job as is testified by the four sets of chisels I am proud to own of his,but it is just this the Koyamaichi slightly more even and symmetrical.

My favourite Ouchi is the Yama-ari Kaku-uchi, followed by the Umeki, but this is a personal choice.

If you want to buy from the best dealer on the, you can not do better than Stu at "Tools from Japan" who sells both and will advise honestly.

thanks for the advice mark,

if i went for the yama-ari would these be good for general use to, not just for dovetails or should i go for kaku-uchi.

or with the koyamaichi oire-nomi what style would be best suited. the standard one?

also would you go for the slicks or paring/detail koyamaichi?

thanks
mark

Originally Posted by thumbsucker

Hi cedro

If you are in the market for Ouchi I have a 3mm, 6mm, 9mm & 12mm Yama-ari oire-nomi they are good for Dovetailing as they have 75° side angles that have no 'square' shoulders. I also have two Ouchi mortise chisels at 9mm and 12mm. All with red wood oak handles. All chisels have been setup and have had limited use i.e. less then 5 sharpening's and are in excess of my needs.

I am willing to part with them at a discount. Stu is selling them the Yama-ari - 3mm @ $90, 6mm @ $97, 9mm $99 & 12mm @ $103 and the mortise are sold for $100 each. I am willing to part with the 3mm @ $67.5, 6mm @ $72.75, 9mm @ $74.25, 12mm @ $77.25, the 9mm & 12mm mortice for $75 each. A 25% discount.

I am in Coburg you are welcome to come around to check them out.

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hey thumbsucker

thanks for the offer if i decide to go with the ouchi yama-ari ill definatley come past and check yours out, sounds like a good deal. is there any reason why your selling them?

thanks
mark cedro

I have limited earnings but I need funds to buy other tools for projects that I am doing now. I am not doing any cabinet work for the forceable future as I am working on post & rung greenwood chairs.

The yama-ari can be used for general cabinet work as they do have enough thickness/meat in the body, but I would not mortise with them that would be to much. A down side to the yama-ari is the sharp side edges do cut your fingers when paring, so you need to tape your index fingers or wear thin gloves or grow some scar tissue.

I had the same question "slicks or paring/detail", when I started looking into Japanese tools. Des King said that oire-nomi is what most Japanese use for the majority of joinery work. The slicks or paring/detail chisels are specialised tools.

Originally Posted by thumbsucker

I have limited earnings but I need funds to buy other tools for projects that I am doing now. I am not doing any cabinet work for the forceable future as I am working on post & rung greenwood chairs.

The yama-ari can be used for general cabinet work as they do have enough thickness/meat in the body, but I would not mortise with them that would be to much. A down side to the yama-ari is the sharp side edges do cut your fingers when paring, so you need to tape your index fingers or wear thin gloves or grow some scar tissue.

I had the same question "slicks or paring/detail", when I started looking into Japanese tools. Des King said that oire-nomi is what most Japanese use for the majority of joinery work. The slicks or paring/detail chisels are specialised tools.

hey thumbsucker,

yeh i wasn't going to use them for mortising, ill most likely by a couple mortise chisels otherwise ill drill the waste and pare it.

i might pm you to get your number and maybe have a look what you have.

i work in north coburg anyway so always in the area.