Thread: Rego Plate Coatings

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ROAD TRAFFIC (LICENSING) REGULATIONS1975 - REG 27
Prohibitionon painting or interfering with number plates
27. Prohibition on painting or interfering with number plates
(1)Subject to subregulation (2), except for the purpose of reinstatingit to its original condition a person shall not paint or otherwise interfere with, or suffer any other person to paint or interfere with, an identification tablet or number plate that has been issuedto him by the Director General.

Originally Posted by smidsy

Back when I worked for the WA cops in the speed camera section I came across a rego plate that had been coated with something that obscured the rego plate to about 90% - that was enough for the plate to look legit to the street cop but made the quality of the photo too poor to be infringed.
Inspite of my best efforts I could never find out what was used.
Anyone got any idea's?

I will point out that I am NOT looking to beat the speed camera's, only those exstortionist bastards at go via - in the city I can stumble my way round without using tolls, but they have you by the balls on the gateway.
Failing the coating, anyone know where I can buy magnetic sheet, the kind signwriters use, but small sizes - about the size of a rego plate.
Cheers
Paul

I have heard about it, but don't know anything of substance.

However, quite a few years ago it was not uncommon for the some people to lightly sandpaper the perspex covering of their number plates. Apparently, it caused issues when being photographed. I cannot vouch for this though.

When Gatso's hit the streets in the late 80's in the UK firms were selling polarised number plates that claimed to be non-photographic. Pommy plates are made from reflective plastic and anyone can make them; you can even buy blanks and the letters/numbers at the major Repco-type auto shops. Aussie plates though are pressed ally so you would have to use a clear plastic polarising filter in a holder over the actual plate.

From memory the only way to "beat" those cameras (proper film SLR's) was to hit your number plate with a pair of servo flash units (you got two pictures taken with the car going over marked graduations) which would white out the plate. You just had to explain to the cops why you had flash equipment hanging off the back of your car

Mythbusters did a show about number plate tampering so they could not be read by cameras. After all their tests they found out it was a myth that this could be done. See if you can get a copy of the show and watch all the methods tried.
regards Ned

Aware of various ways of disguising plates however the odd thing is there are numerous new coloured plates (legit) that once you focus your headlights onto obscure being read.Figured it was a one-off till checking out further new plates. Now maybe a camera can pick up from (say) 50`but driving directly behind a vehicle the numbers/letters literally disappear.

Guys I am aware of the legality (or complete lack there of) of what I intend to do, but I have had it with those thieving b*st*rds at GoVia - thats the toll company for non Qld'ers.
I don't have the tag so they charge me 44 cents to manually process me, because I use tolls sporadically its pointless having automatic top up, so they charge me a $1.10 manual top up fee.
They suspend my account without notice and use that to justify 10x-ing the toll.

Speed cameras are different, you have a choice about whether you speed or not, but you don't have much choice with tolls - yes going through the city I can usually bungle my way through avoiding the tolls with minimal delay, the gateway however means a 20k round trip detour on busy city streets and can add an hour or more to the journey.

I know from my time at WA Camera section that there are coverings that work, that however would mean bypassing the speed cameras which is not my intention.
I think I will just keep gaffa tape or a cordless drill with me and remove/cover and then replace/uncover the plates as I go over the gateway that way I avoid only the tolls.
Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by smidsy

I know from my time at WA Camera section that there are coverings that work....

OK spill the beans it is after all Christmas.

Originally Posted by smidsy

. . . . .I know from my time at WA Camera section that there are coverings that work, that however would mean bypassing the speed cameras which is not my intention.
I think I will just keep gaffa tape or a cordless drill with me and remove/cover and then replace/uncover the plates as I go over the gateway that way I avoid only the tolls.
Regards
Paul

Why don't you set up a flip plate system like you see in the movies?

Cava,
If I knew what this stuff I would use it, I came across it on a plate that was unreadable - I managed to read the plate but no one else could.
Trust me, I tried hard to find out what this stuff was but few people knew and those that did weren't telling.

As for rotating rego plate holders, this opens me up to the temptation of using it to avoid speed cameras which is not my intention. It also gives the cops reason to go over the entire car should I get pulled for an RBT or license check.

One thing I have thought of if I could find out where to get it is simply rego plate size pieces of magnetic sign type material painted to match the car duco - simply slap them over the rego plates.

Whilst I can sympathize with you about the toll costs, etc, I cannot and will not ever condone or abet a criminal act.
Society has enough problems with law breakers at all levels and magnitudes (don't start me on politicians).
We as responsible adults and should be held up to be role models to our families, friends, nation.
I would ask you to ask yourself this question: 'What do you want your children to grow up to be?, fine upstanding citizens or the offspring of a criminal' and also what do you tell them when you eventually get caught and you will.
I know I sound like a righteous puritan but if we don't do the right thing then we have failed miserably to make this a better place.
Oh, and since you are ex police, you of all people, should be ashamed to tote for an illegal act.

Hei Ray,
Several good points, some of which I agree with.
I will start by clarifying that I worked for the cops but I never was one - I was what they call an unsworn, a civilian police employee.

As for kids, I don't have any, I just never met the right woman, but if I did I would want them to stand up for what they believe is right.

I believe that the tolls are morally wrong for reasons I have stated in earlier posts.

The government of this fair state does not want to pay for roads, so they allow private enterprise to build the roads and then charge a user fee - that company also has the power to be ruthless and dictatorial in how they charge that fee, going as far as license suspension for non payment. License suspension has a double effect for me, I'm trying to break in to the traffic control industry so (obviously) I have a T/C licence. That T/C licence is attached to my MDL so if I get an MDL suspension for any reason I also lose the ability to work because my T/C tickets go the same way as my MDL.
As for the GoVia staff, the staff at Murrarie were great (and I like to think it's because they're great and not just being nice because it's face to face) but the call centre staff are the worst I have ever encountered - their whole attitude was this is how it is if you don't like it tough. They are aggressive, hostile, and I was openly called a lyer when I told them of wrong advice I was given by other staffers.

Maybe tolls are a fact of life, but they should also provide a means whereby people can avoid the toll with only a reasonable amount of extra travel - having to go all the way over to the Storey bridge to avoid the tolls is not reasonable.

Maybe something else they could do is set one lane of the Gateway as toll free but with a 50k speed limit - those that want to speed pay for it.

At the end of the day, we all have our own sense of morality, our own moral code which we live by.

To Ray and everyone else on this forum, you and your family have a great Christmas, I hope the fat dude in red brings you your dreams

I don't mind 'user pays' one bit, as a matter of fact, I think it is good.

Why should people who never use those toll roads have to share in the cost of building it.

I live 1700Kms from Brisbane & I have a Go Via beeper in my car for when I am down there.

It is quicker & easier to use the toll roads & having the beeper makes it cheaper.

Hmmm. Gateway Bridge or build a time machine and use the James Holt ferry. Either way, you pay a toll if you want cross the river at Murrarie.


The solution is simple. Go the long way.

Originally Posted by smidsy

The government of this fair state does not want to pay for roads, . . . . . .

I'll think you'll find that should be the "Taxpayers of QLD" don't want to pay any more taxes. QLD prides itself on running a lean state govt but that means less money for things like roads so it's no wonder tolls raise their ugly heads. Based on size and industry the comparative state to QLD is WA - no tolls but a bit more tax. From what I can see in this country there are too many people wanting to keep as well as eating their cake.