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    Thumbs down ABC iView - latest version is rubbish!

    Yesterday I noticed that the ABC is using a new version of iView. There are a few cosmetic changes, which don't particularly look necessary.

    What I have noticed though, is that the image is now just rubbish! It looks like it's permanently about 10 frames per second (if that). Also, where it used to go "soft" on screen every now and then it now goes to 3mm square pixels which look really bad, and happen far more frequently. Most of the time it's 1mm square pixels, and a very small amount of the time it is as sharp as it used to be (which was never particularly good resolution, but.....).

    The other thing I notice is that prior to yesterday when watching iView I would see a Flash Player icon in the status bar - now there is nothing. I have checked Flash, and the latest version is installed. Using Windows 10 on a high spec laptop 12 months old.

    Anyone getting similar results since yesterday?

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    A little more information: when I look at it on a miserably small screen, the motion is ok (normal), but as I drag the screen size bigger it gets worse and worse - this did not happen with the previous version, and still does not happen with Youtube in full screen (just checked). I generally watch full screen on a 28" screen.
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    You are right. Its pixilated to hell.

    This is a screen grab using Snip tool.

    It was unwatchable at times. Im on a 100Mb pipe with 22Mb testsed speed using Googles Speedtest.

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    Interesting that the fps gets worse as the screen size gets bigger - there must be some sort of clue there. Must be some sort of clue with the missing Flash icon in the status bar too, methinks.
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    Works fine here.

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    sounds like a server problem to me.
    perhaps the ABC's Sydney iView server is overloaded
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    I just logged into iView from my laptop with WIN 10. Video clarity on my external monitor was fine. Cant link to TV via HDMI as lightening took out my LAN and HDMI port on the laptop.
    I use iView from my iPad and Apple TV which is also fine.

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    Works fine for me with Windows 7.

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    I would think that they are moving away from flash as it has been a security nightmare, and there is no support for mobiles. Nothing to worry about.
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    It seems to me that the issue is that the new version of iView is with Firefox - it doesn't like it. I'd be willing to bet that woodpixel was using FF (and getting lousy results), and wimmera jack, Bobl, and Lappa were using something else, like Google Chrome.

    This is part of the email I just sent to the iView team, who just responded to my initial email:
    I think I have worked out that the issue that you have with this new version of iView is that it does not like Firefox, at all. I have just done a comparison of using Google Chrome, which I dislike using due to security issues, and iView works as it used to work on Firefox. Using Chrome, and in full screen mode using the external monitor, the frames per second rate is normal, and the pixellation is not there. However, when I played the same program in Firefox the fps rate was awful, as was the pixellation.

    In view of that, I suspect that anyone using Firefox will be having trouble now, and this will be because the player that you have replaced Flash with, does not like Firefox. This would seem to be quite apparent.

    Have you checked how the various browsers respond to this new video player? Firefox is extremely popular.





    I'd be pretty sure that they haven't checked the new version of iView in all the different browsers, and especially in FF. Let's be clear here: FF likes FF - what else what I use?
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    Hi Brett

    good luck with the above.
    I suspect that the response you will get, if you even get one, will be along teh lines of ...
    "we checked with all the major browsers -- safari (ithingy), Chrome (android thingies), IE (microsoft thingies) -- and there's no issues."
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    I suspect you are right Ian.
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    Anecdotally although I don't use iview I've had some other performance issues with FF since the W10 Creators update as well as problems with some of the new windows drivers. I note that FF has installed at least one update since Creator and I that there have been another couple of windows patches installed. I wonder if the iview issue is related to any of that?
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    Lappa, you can get a ChromeCast for the back of the TV. It will let you play all the things on your laptop without a HDMI or LAN connection.

    they are about $50

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    Thanks WP. I forgot all about the Chromecast
    The lightening blew the LAN port in the laptop and the GeForce HDMI port (next door to it) and the modem/router. Luckily it didn't it take out the TV which is also LAN connected to the modem/router.
    Optus came to the party and supplied a new router/modem for free
    I didn't know about the LAN port for a month or so as the laptop automatically switches to wireless if the LAN is disconnected. I bought a USB to LAN converter and it works fine (faster than wireless).
    Didnt know about the HDMI for 5 months until SWMBO wanted to view an iView program. Just bought a HD5 video/audio cable to connect the laptop to the TV.
    Might still buy a Chromecast and give it a go.

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    Yeah, the ChromeCast is an amazing tool.

    I really don't think people yet grasp the ramifications of it. It isnt a "google" device... (well, its is, but it aint!). It allows you to "cast" any screen to the ChromeCast - mobiles, tablets, PC's, etc.

    If you have an android phone, just pullup iView, select the show and "cast" it. The TV will flick over to the device automatically and start the show.

    Its great.

    I use it for watching Netflix, YouTube videos (oh, my wife LOVES watching woodwork videos at 10pm!!!!) and the ABC/SBS.


    Traditional TV is utterly dead. Channel 10 has just beat the others to the bankruptcy punch. Within a couple of years, it will just be exhausted reruns of things played 1300 times and in nursing homes. Internet TV is the future.


    One really amazing thing I happened across, and this is incredible in application, is that a local guy was a radio caller for football games 20 odd years ago. A fabulous voice for radio, but not the noggin for the tube! He was struggling as local radio is dying too. He stated a business "calling" for ultra local kids sports games. He does it from home. They gave him a list of players numbers and pictures (factoids, stats, etc) and he now organises the teams to live-stream the game on YouTube or Facebook and he calls the game. Kids footy, hockey, etc. Under 16's, that kind of thing. He has world wide watchers now, where in one case a Granny from Germany was watching her grandkids play hockey in Wagga. She was moved to tears that she could do this. It blew me away.

    The local teams pay him $100 or something for the game, set up the cameras (mums and dads just use something cheap) and he overlays his voice onto the feed.

    Now, Gran could have just used her android phone (the kids or mum/dad would message her to say the game is on) and she just ChromeCasts that feed to her TV.

    HOW FRIGGIN COOL IS THAT!!!!!!!

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