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    Default Klutz questions again - VOIP handset and NBN modem choices

    OK, NBN is available to us now. We are 200 metres from the node and 35m from the grey pillar.

    Time to upgrade the phone handsets anyway, so VOIP will be the way to go. I'm looking a a Siemens Gigaset A510IP pair for $209. Apparently these are compatible with old phone lines as well (which I won't need/have) so I wonder if that makes them more expensive than dedicated VOIP phones?

    Also have to get a new modem of course, and Aussie Broadband are recommending a Netcomm NF17ACV (which they want $209 delivered for).

    However, I'm a little confused but regular readers may not be surprised about that!

    Just reading the spec on the Netcomm, and it says (down the bottom) that I can connect a regular phone to the FXS port, so does that mean I can buy something like these Siemens A220A sets, (a stinkin' good price there) and the A510IP I mentioned above is for what, exactly? Is it if I don't have a VOIP compatible router?
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    Our existing Panasonic base station with 2 sateliite sets just plugged straight in to the little VOIP box that Aussie Broadband supplied free of charge together with the free (Linksys) router.

    No special phones required.

    We don't use the Linksys router as it doesn't have a facility for a network printer so I bought a Netgear N900 router for $50 (used).

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    Why buy handsets at all...

    Presuming you have mobiles of course, a VoIP app on your phone will use your Data connection over your (presumed) in house WiFi...

    Things like Viber are ugly but workable, my 74 year old neighbour uses it almost exclusively now, got onto it as a cheap way to converse with her son in Germany. And now makes all her calls that way...

    There are dozens more...good ones will switch seamlessly between wifi and 3/4G. My version works to the door of my shed but once inside it goes over to mobile reception...but the shed is 30m from the house...

    I have a Business Grade version of a VoIP app that sits on my PC lappy, my Mac desktop, my android mobile, and my Apple iPad and all of them ring either together, or consecutively (depending on my settings) when someone calls...

    Have not made a call from my landline in two years...and we know if the landline rings it's most likely a dodgy caller...

    Do not buy a router from your provider...my last three experiences have found that they are in effect "cut down" versions of the real things, that, for instance, cannot accept firmware upgrades and have very limited info for problems online..

    Better to find a local ICT guy and have him recommend one, and come and install and get running... that way, when it does inevitably go wrong, you'll have someone local to call for help.

    Not the knobheads at the end of the phone after waiting for hours to get through...If he's any good he'll most likely be able to correct remotely...

    I'm spoilt, we have a young IT guru onsite in the business I work for, and the business is heavily reliant on great IT skills...At work here we have the NBN and in two years it has been rock solid. That said today we're only getting 89 down and 37 up...but still acceptable...I guess I saying you are more likely to have support issues related to your onsite equipment than anything AB can assist with, so having a local guy on board will be preferrable..

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    Thanks Fred and David.

    We do have one current model iPhone here, but mine is a 10 yo Nokia that, funnily enough, still makes excellent phone calls. I have no intention of getting an iSmarty until I am forced to (got a spare near new Nokia in the drawer).
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    Am I right in thinking that a VOIP capable phone is only required if you don't have a VOIP capable modem (and don't want to upgrade it)?
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    The Siemens AKA Gigaset are excellent phones and I bought from the same supplier. Our set has a central base somewhat like how a cell phone operates and it sets up a network in the house and you can add phones later if needed. They are made in Germany as well or mine were which is a refreshing change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    The Siemens AKA Gigaset are excellent phones and I bought from the same supplier. Our set has a central base somewhat like how a cell phone operates and it sets up a network in the house and you can add phones later if needed. They are made in Germany as well or mine were which is a refreshing change.
    Which model Chris?
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    I bought a triple set and the main hand set is NLA. The 2nd phone is the same as you are thinking of and the third is a different one again, all lose features from the main phone. A good feature of the Siemens is you can plug your mobile in via bluetooth if you want but we have not bothered with this and I am sure other phone brands can do the same. The main hand set has two big issues, it has flush buttons which are a bit small and not enough volume but the one you are looking at is fine in both regards. Whirlpool is a mine of information on all this stuff and is where I learned about the brand.
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    One thing likely to slow down any internet connection here is the hugely long cable from the phone outlet. It's in the kitchen so I had to use a 10m cable to go up the various door jambs etc.

    Now there is an old outlet in this room - the plate has been taken off and the four wires are just hanging there out of the skirting board. I'm wondering if I can simply reattach an outlet to these wires? Sounds pretty straightforward to me.

    Any advice please anyone?
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    I'd say those wires don't terminate anywhere useful..
    But, if they do then it will most likely only be that way for a few months...until your copper is disconnected...

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    Quote Originally Posted by david.elliott View Post
    But, if they do then it will most likely only be that way for a few months...until your copper is disconnected...
    Well that's one thing I'm not clear about David. The old system gets switched off 2018 sometime, but the NBN comes into the house via the existing phone lines...dunnit? You're suggesting that the old phone lines will cease to function? So what happens then???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    One thing likely to slow down any internet connection here is the hugely long cable from the phone outlet. It's in the kitchen so I had to use a 10m cable to go up the various door jambs etc.

    Now there is an old outlet in this room - the plate has been taken off and the four wires are just hanging there out of the skirting board. I'm wondering if I can simply reattach an outlet to these wires? Sounds pretty straightforward to me.

    Any advice please anyone?
    I'm not following, are you using a wireless connection now for the internet? I would put the new router/modem thingy at the point of entry into the house and run cat 6 to any computer you want connected to the net if wireless is too slow which I doubt it will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    I'm not following, are you using a wireless connection now for the internet? I would put the new router/modem thingy at the point of entry into the house and run cat 6 to any computer you want connected to the net if wireless is too slow which I doubt it will be.
    New computers don't have LAN ports unfortunately. Yes we are running wireless, but the entry point to the house is (and will be?) a phone connection.
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    You can use one of these

    https://www.google.com.au/search?cli...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8



    I understand the whole point of FTTN is to use the existing copper and if FTTP then everything gets changed.
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    I think one of us is missing something Chris. I'm talking about the landline coming into the house, not going from the landline outlet to the computer
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