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    Gidday

    Any Advise on Sharpening Shewed Blades? I suspect the principle is the same once mastering a straight Sharpen?

    Anything to watch out for etc etc etc is my first venture into working on a Skewed Blade.......................

    Further any advise cambering the Blades truely appreciated.......................

    I have a belt sander (like no other) and 6 n 10 thousand Grit Waterstones

    My method is to do all the Primary work on my Belt sander then give them Just a lick with the waterstones

    Any good Oil truely appreciated

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    Lou

    The planes I have bought from Terry arrived with all the primary work already done.
    All you should need to do is a bit of final honing on your 6000 grit stone. (but you might like to add a 1000 or 2000 stone to your mix, as IMO 6000 is a bit too fine to jump straight into.


    also, don't play with Terry's blade geometry
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    First of all, you may not need to use a grinder - belt or otherwise. All that may be required is a quick hone on stones. This is easiest if you can freehand sharpen. The only guides that I know will work on HNT Gordon blades are Veritas and Sharp Skate. The LN is dedicated to LN blades. It may or may not work with HNT Gordon skew blades.

    If the blade is too worn, then you may need to grind .... eventually all blades need to be ground, so develop a system ...

    To add to Ian's warning about not changing the blade geometry, what I do with all my skew blades is hollow grind them, either on a Tormek or a bench grinder. This requires some careful set up to maintain the bevel angle (usually 30 degrees) and the skew (often 20 degrees).

    Once this is done, it is an easy matter to freehand sharpen.

    For those that prefer a honing guide, the Veritas MkII has a skew attachment that will do the work for you.

    An alternate approach (this only works with a top clamp guide) is to ensure that the bevel is square, and then you can set the projection ...




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    Hi Derek

    in another thread, Lou was sharing one of his new tools --
    Quote Originally Posted by NewLou View Post
    Oh how could I forgot!.............................. Gloat festival is on full song at this end

    A Majestic Moving Fillister ........................... I feel like Indiana Jones after just striking treasure raiding a tomb in Raiders of the lost Ark......................WOW!

    Lifes suddenly Become Even Better

    But with all Blessing some say there comes a curse ...................mmmmmmmmmm how to sharpen this blade??????
    so Lou is really asking how to hone the new blade.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Thx Gents muchly appreciated.......................I have the Veritas can have a play there...............but think ive lost most of the parts

    Sharpenings no Issue Im well Versed.............. I can get the Blade to take the hair off my Arms very quickly n efficiently

    However its the camber on the blade im curious about Does anyone Camber a skewed blade? Is it Necessary?

    As stated is my first journey into Skewed Blades

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewLou View Post
    Thx Gents muchly appreciated..........

    However its the camber on the blade im curious about Does anyone Camber a skewed blade? Is it Necessary?

    As stated is my first journey into Skewed Blades
    the moving Filister is a joinery plane. the cutting edge should be parallel to the plane's sole, so no camber
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Hi Derek

    in another thread, Lou was sharing one of his new tools --

    so Lou is really asking how to hone the new blade.

    No I learnt how to Hone and Sharpen Here:

    Sharpening....A Dark Side Voyage for Beginners

    Was just merely after any Useful Tips N Tricks additions to sharpening/Honing at a Skewed Angle.......................Jigs anyone has found useful

    I dont Sharpen Free HAnd I do all my Blades at once on the Belt Grinder then Give them a Lick on water stones with The Veritas Mk 2 if its required (Is simply my approach amongst the many other ways of going about it)

    Am just dipping into the Wisdom of the forum for any further goodies to be aware of when sharpening a Skewed Blade (Something Im a complete Newb at)

    HAve stumbled across some good reads here:

    Correct the Skew on a Plane Blade or Chisel

    and here:

    Sharpening Skew-Angle Plane Irons

    Off and running now...................thx again for the comments

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    Thanks for the link to that amazing long sharpening thread from 12 years ago. How we have moved on since then. Belt sanders to Tormeks to bench grinders.

    My current set up uses CBN wheels to grind, and then freehand on ceramic stones (that rarely if ever need flattening):

    http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Woodwor...ningSetUp.html

    Regards from Perth

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    Hahaha has it been 12 years WOW!................

    I've evolved in my own way also .................and much like yours works for you mine also works for me Utilising my Belt Sander that I also use for Fabrication preping pipe n such (Aussie MAde too)

    I havent got a theoretical axe to Grind or a way to hone sharpen grind lap spit polish fusion shake or vulcan stir to get things sharp

    Im more into making stuff..............and learning about new things that might be useful for me to muck around with and evolve from along the way

    Thx for the link Darth Look foward to checking out and exploring what the latest Cohenism is

    Sincerely with Respect

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    Hi Lou

    Sharp is sharp. That is what is important for a blade, not how you get there. What you make and the pleasure it brings, well now, that is what counts at the end for me.

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewLou View Post
    HAve stumbled across some good reads here:

    Correct the Skew on a Plane Blade or Chisel

    and here:

    Sharpening Skew-Angle Plane Irons
    thanks for those links
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Thanks for the link to that amazing long sharpening thread from 12 years ago. How we have moved on since then. Belt sanders to Tormeks to bench grinders.
    There are some forgotten names in that thread.
    CHRIS

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