Thread: Weighing in on sharpening

Originally Posted by rightendup

Read a few posts in this area and thought to start a new thread that will no doubt be picked apart, added to and debunked! - as there are as many ways as there are sharpeners,
The trick I like is to take a belt sander and flatten a section of the handle, then take a piece of rubber (I use a small diameter bicycle innertube) and lash the chisle to a stick about four feet long - the longer the better. With the grinder up about 4 1/2 ft high and a nail in the bottom of the stick, stuck in a shallow hole in the floor, grind the center of the chisle face and get nowhere near the edge. Granted, you get a very small arc to the chisle but not on the working surface. This gets rid of some excess metal.

What the heck are you going on about ! The whole thing doesnt make sense and I have read it 3 times?

Makes perfect sense to me. What's the issue?

Throw a little berley and come in spinner . . .

Makes about as much sense as every other sharpening regime that has been posted on this and every other Woodworking board.

Take mine for example, I have a White 80 grit wheel on my grinder for stock removal/establishing a bevel (Veritas Grinder Rest, normally 30 degrees), Wet and Dry for ensuring the back 1 - 2 mm nearest to the blade is flat and to begin the polishing up to 800 grit, then the two water stones 1000 & 4000 grit(all using the Veritas MkII guide), then the Veritas green on mdf.

Everyone has a differing method and everyone has an opinion.

Perhaps some picture would help

Originally Posted by rightendup

The trick I like is to take a belt sander and flatten a section of the handle, then take a piece of rubber (I use a small diameter bicycle innertube) and lash the chisle to a stick about four feet long - the longer the better.

Why would you destroy a perfectly good chisel handle by grinding some of it flat?

Originally Posted by rightendup

With the grinder up about 4 1/2 ft high

what? put the grinder 41/2 foot up from the floor on a bench

Originally Posted by rightendup

and a nail in the bottom of the stick, stuck in a shallow hole in the floor, grind the center of the chisle face and get nowhere near the edge.

what? Drill a hole in the concrete floor so you broom stick with a chisel tied to it can reach the grinder on the bench at 4 1/2 foot

Originally Posted by rightendup

Granted, you get a very small arc to the chisle but not on the working surface. This gets rid of some excess metal.

What the heck!
Why would you grind the crap out of the back of a chisel to get rid of excess metal

Or is he trying to wind people up ?

Andrew

once the chisel is tied on the stick ya could use it as a flounder spear

What the heck!

See, you understood it perfectly

Originally Posted by kiwioutdoors

Why would you grind the crap out of the back of a chisel to get rid of excess metal

I think he's taking about grinding the bevel, not the back. This is a... errm... "variation" of some jigs which are used for turning chisels, although they tend to be much more compact.

The longer the stick, the longer the radius therefore the flatter the arc that's being ground across the width of the bevel.

IMHO, only useful for prepping a chisel to roughly the right bevel angle (as he said: removing excess material) before using stones to bring it to final dimensions.

Personally, I'd rather use a tool-rest and Mk I eyeball. But that's my quirk.

ah like the true grind he didnt say that lol i was going ordinary chisel what the

The was jig around that mounted on the floor for turning chislels, a friend bought one used it once and put it on shelf in the shed as far as I know it is still there, after 13 years

This post might help, I think the jigs have some major similarities

Regards,

James

Since grinding the flat spot on the handle the chisle has been knocked off the bench a few times but has never rolled off.
I don't concern myself so much with the handle as I do with the edge.
One can certainly spend money on jigs to sharpen tools. Or one can use a 'trick' and save some money. "Watch the pennies and the nickles will take care of themselves."

Originally Posted by rightendup

Read a few posts in this area and thought to start a new thread that will no doubt be picked apart, added to and debunked! - as there are as many ways as there are sharpeners,

So if I translate this a bit... You're saying, shut up and listen - I don't care what you have to add...

One can certainly spend money on jigs to sharpen tools. Or one can use a 'trick' and save some money.

Pardon me, but what is that clamped to the chisel in photo 4?

Originally Posted by silentC

Pardon me, but what is that clamped to the chisel in photo 4?

It is an Eclipse sharpening trick