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4th September 2009, 09:27 AM #1
Air Compressor Question
I have been toying with using in Air compressor in my shed. Unfortunately as I have no experience with one only seen what a few friends do and of course my phantom friend Norm who would have to close down his operation if he did not have access to the latest top of the line you - beaut offering from some generous sponsor.
Unfortunately I have to pay for mine since they have made shop lifting a jailable offence.
From what I can see its main use will be the following although I realize as I become more experienced other users will present themselves, but i have to contend myself with the now and foreseeable future.
1. Using it as a brad nailer to help with glue ups.
2. Maybe using it as a nailer up to 75 mm. Although this option is not really important as it would be used so infrequently.
3. As an air cleaner for tools and machinery.
4. Easy to move around and not take up too much space.
5. GMC had a small two tank model that you removed the top tank to give you some portability for some small jobs outside the reach of your air hose. My problem then was the same I had now, not knowing what to expect from a unit that small even though it ticked all the right boxes except the question I did not know and that was " Fit for purpose "
6. Using it as a Spray Gun does not really come into the equation, nice if it does, but not worth too much extra cash for the benefit.
7. Things like Screw Guns, Air tools are just another shed filler and not really necessary for my needs.
Basically, what I am looking for is the cheapest and smallest unit that will do a job effectively for a hobbyist. The unit will not get used much and will just fill up valuable shed space and collect dust.
But seeing it is Father's Day Sunday and I have almost everything I need, I thought a compressor might be a handy addition. My actual needs would not convince me to use my own money to buy one but if somebody else did then I would have to try harder to help them spend their money.
Peter
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4th September 2009, 10:15 AM #2.
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Seen this post https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...or+spreadsheet
In that post Mal F posts a spread sheet listing a wide range of compressors and their various ratings, the prices might have changed a bit since then but most of those models are still available.
As a guide you want as big a tank and as much free air delivery (FAD) as possible and plenty in reserve. Even if you want to clean up a few tools a small tank will run out way too quickly and the air flow direct from a cheap compressor does not do much cleaning.
Rather than moving a compressor around in a shed I think it's much better to leave the compressor in the one place and run a network of hose around the shed and add take off point at various places. If you want mobile air I use a recently out of date BBQ gas bottle (make sure it is not rusty) and pump that up with the compressor and move that around.
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4th September 2009, 11:49 AM #3
Super cheap , have low cost stuff that covers your needs ,They also have package lot of a brad gun , staple gun, boxes of a couple of sizes of each for $59
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4th September 2009, 04:05 PM #4
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4th September 2009, 05:34 PM #5Senior Member
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If I can paraphrase your "wish list":
So basically, you only really want to use it for brad nailing glue ups and cleaning tools. You don't really want/need it for the other reasons.
To be honest, it doesn't really sound like you need one at all, other than want one out of curiousity.
I hope Norm has not unduly influenced you. Personally, I hate how Norm shoves in "a cupla brads while the glue sets", and would never use it for that reason. Drives me mad whenever he shoots brads through molding.
If you really want a brad nailer, aldi is currently selling an electric one. No idea how good/crap it is.
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6th September 2009, 07:47 AM #6
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12th September 2009, 11:05 AM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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I rather like using one to blow the dust out of my sandpaper and my workpiece when sanding by hand. I've also used it for blowing the dust out of sawbench, jointer, thicknesser and various power tools.
And, importantly, for inflating tyres, not all of which have been easy to get to the local service station.
Until the smoke got out, it was the most-often used machine in the shop. I'm now looking to upgrade, the old one was a Trade Air from Bunnings, the new one undecided. I note that Malz has one on offer at 399, down from 599. 149 L/min FAD. 15A. Supercheap has a Blackridge BRC-200 plus stuff at $248. 40% off. 200 L/min.John
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12th September 2009, 01:29 PM #8
Any of the cheapies would do the tasks you mention above except not sure about the 75mm nails. I use my Super Cheap one that I bought about 4 years ago and its still going strong. I also have an electric nailer/staple gun but it doesn't compare with the one I use with the compressor.
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Cheers John
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12th September 2009, 04:21 PM #9
I think that a compressor is a pretty essential machine for any workshop. Don't worry about the paticular applications you may need it for. There's not much around that can't be done with 240 volts or cordless power. But compressors are useful enough just as blowers when you need air to clean things or to pump up tyres and so on. You may not use it all that often, but when you need air, there's nothing else. I think I use mine at least once a week.
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I bought the $399 one from Malz. It's a Scorpion SRT-2240, came with a 5-part accessory kit that doesn't fit - the hose, tyre inflator etc have the wrong connector - the compressor has a (nitto?) quick-release female connector and all the accessories (except the hose) have 1/4" male connectors. Malz gave me the connector to allow me to connect the standard hose plus one for the hose I already had so overall I'm pretty happy with the service.
I couldn't face all that screwing and unscrewing so I bought some more quick-release connectors.
The compressor is belt-drive, much quieter than the one it replaced. Wife approves it for inflating her tyres, it does a fine job of blowing the dust out of my sandpaper. Since one of the accessories is for spray painting, I expect it will do that too.
While I was screwing things together, I used a little thread tape. Air leakage is minimal and quiet.
So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Except for the instructions.John
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