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    Default butterfly wedge

    Hi folks

    has anyone seen equipment that can produce a butterfly joined corner like the one attached? I've been searching for hours but cannot find anything. Do you know who makes the equipment and where to get it?

    many thanks for any help.

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    I think it's called a chisel.

    Actually, George Nakashima produced a lot of these butterfly joints in his furniture, and most of them were done with a combination of router and chisel. But he only used a router to remove mass from large butterfly joints.

    Sorry - I'm not much help. I'm sure someone else will come up with the goods.

    Best of luck - and welcome!
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    the system shown looks to be done with the hoffman machine i want one

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    I noticed that one of the WW magazines at the newsagents the other day had an article on making a jig for cutting this joint on the router table. Basically just a sled with a ramp on it to offer the job up to the router bit at 45deg. There's also a jig in the new Carbatec cattledog which holds the job in place so you can pass the router over the top, a bit like the generic dovetail jigs. It comes with a proprietry 2 part butterfly key which expands when assembled to lock it into the joint. Unfortunately the keys are plastic which would look a bit tacky if exposed.

    Mick
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    green woodchips, canetoad, and journeyman mick, thanks guys for your generosity.

    The hoffman dovetail joining system is exactly what I am looking for.

    thanks again.

    2zm

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    These are called 'dovetail keys' and are really well explained in ' Classic Joints with Power tools' by Yeung Chan.
    1) You rout the sockets in the timber you need to join with a dovetail cutter.
    2) Make up a block for the keys. You will get a few keys out of the block. With the dovetail cutter and a fence, have 4 passes as the block is rotated after each pass and you have a block of dovetail inserts.
    3) Rip individual keys from the block and place them into the dovetail opening
    I can send you a photocopy if needed.
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    You can also cut the keys with a bit called "bitterly key spline". Timbecon sell them for $45 (BKS-286-H). The splines are cut in two passes i.e each side.
    The spline sits into a whole cut with a standard dovetail bit. Just run it through vertically.
    Specializing in O positive timber stains

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    Why can't I edit that post?

    Anyway It was supposed to say "Butterfly key spline".
    Specializing in O positive timber stains

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    Have a look at this idea as well
    http://www.enlock.com
    Thanks to joe1957 for bringing it up!
    Have a nice day - Cheers

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    ... and more thanks to you guys.

    and thanks WoodButcher, I saw the Enlock jig demonstrated on the ABC's New Inventors last night. I am going to look into it a bit more as it is so cheap to set up, and for what I want (for the time being) it looks like it might be perfect. The Hoffman jig will be more appropriate further down the track.

    thanks guys.

    2zm

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    I think one of the judges last night was right when they asked about the plastic butterfly standing proud of the timber surface - very ugly - yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mat
    I think one of the judges last night was right when they asked about the plastic butterfly standing proud of the timber surface - very ugly - yes!
    I saw this too, and my first thought was that it might be a mechanically good joining method, but it would look plug ugly - even if the later version has the facility for producing flush-fitting butterflies.

    My thought is this: if it can be made flush, why not flush less 1 or 2mm, leaving a space into which some timber of the same type & grain orientation could be placed. Hmm, a market for a butterfly cutter...

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