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13th May 2006, 11:14 AM #1Novice
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butterfly wedge
Hi folks
has anyone seen equipment that can produce a butterfly joined corner like the one attached? I've been searching for hours but cannot find anything. Do you know who makes the equipment and where to get it?
many thanks for any help.
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13th May 2006, 11:50 AM #2
I think it's called a chisel.
Actually, George Nakashima produced a lot of these butterfly joints in his furniture, and most of them were done with a combination of router and chisel. But he only used a router to remove mass from large butterfly joints.
Sorry - I'm not much help. I'm sure someone else will come up with the goods.
Best of luck - and welcome!
GWWhere you see a tree, I see 3 cubic metres of timber, milled and dressed.
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13th May 2006, 12:00 PM #3
the system shown looks to be done with the hoffman machine i want one
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13th May 2006, 12:04 PM #4
http://hoffmann-usa.com/htm/machines/intro_dovetail.htm
Hope this helps
they look great
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13th May 2006, 12:11 PM #5
I noticed that one of the WW magazines at the newsagents the other day had an article on making a jig for cutting this joint on the router table. Basically just a sled with a ramp on it to offer the job up to the router bit at 45deg. There's also a jig in the new Carbatec cattledog which holds the job in place so you can pass the router over the top, a bit like the generic dovetail jigs. It comes with a proprietry 2 part butterfly key which expands when assembled to lock it into the joint. Unfortunately the keys are plastic which would look a bit tacky if exposed.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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13th May 2006, 08:08 PM #6Novice
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many thanks
green woodchips, canetoad, and journeyman mick, thanks guys for your generosity.
The hoffman dovetail joining system is exactly what I am looking for.
thanks again.
2zm
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13th May 2006, 09:02 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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These are called 'dovetail keys' and are really well explained in ' Classic Joints with Power tools' by Yeung Chan.
1) You rout the sockets in the timber you need to join with a dovetail cutter.
2) Make up a block for the keys. You will get a few keys out of the block. With the dovetail cutter and a fence, have 4 passes as the block is rotated after each pass and you have a block of dovetail inserts.
3) Rip individual keys from the block and place them into the dovetail opening
I can send you a photocopy if needed.
Carry Pine
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13th May 2006, 09:08 PM #8
You can also cut the keys with a bit called "bitterly key spline". Timbecon sell them for $45 (BKS-286-H). The splines are cut in two passes i.e each side.
The spline sits into a whole cut with a standard dovetail bit. Just run it through vertically.Specializing in O positive timber stains
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15th May 2006, 12:41 PM #9
Why can't I edit that post?
Anyway It was supposed to say "Butterfly key spline".Specializing in O positive timber stains
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15th May 2006, 08:25 PM #10
Have a look at this idea as well
http://www.enlock.com
Thanks to joe1957 for bringing it up!Have a nice day - Cheers
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18th May 2006, 09:22 AM #11Novice
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... and more thanks to you guys.
and thanks WoodButcher, I saw the Enlock jig demonstrated on the ABC's New Inventors last night. I am going to look into it a bit more as it is so cheap to set up, and for what I want (for the time being) it looks like it might be perfect. The Hoffman jig will be more appropriate further down the track.
thanks guys.
2zm
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18th May 2006, 11:16 AM #12
I think one of the judges last night was right when they asked about the plastic butterfly standing proud of the timber surface - very ugly - yes!
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18th May 2006, 07:09 PM #13Originally Posted by mat
My thought is this: if it can be made flush, why not flush less 1 or 2mm, leaving a space into which some timber of the same type & grain orientation could be placed. Hmm, a market for a butterfly cutter...
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