Thread: The Eagle spreads his wings

G'day Big Shed,

Another beaut addition to your t/saw.

I had a look at the link to Dizzy's Shop and I like his solution to an hinged outfeed table using the rollers, it's now joined the list of jigs to make.

Good work Big Shed. Is it a lot of trouble to remove and replace the Incra fence when you need a clean table
les

Originally Posted by les88

Good work Big Shed. Is it a lot of trouble to remove and replace the Incra fence when you need a clean table
les

No, only takes a minute, remove 6 x M6 bolts and you're done. The Incra won't be on there very often I don't think, but it is nice to have the facility.
The extension wing was done more for easily using the maximum cutting capacity of the saw than for using the Incra.

Looks great Big Shed.

I need to make one of those, too. been putting it off, because I wasn't sure how thick it needed to be.

How's yours constructed?

Laminate on ply? what depth of material did you use?

Originally Posted by jaspr

Looks great Big Shed.

I need to make one of those, too. been putting it off, because I wasn't sure how thick it needed to be.

How's yours constructed?

Laminate on ply? what depth of material did you use?

Main extension wing is 32mm laminated chipboard, total thicknes built up to 60mm with 65mm wide hardwood, glued and screwed underneath. This then gives me enough "meat" to screw through the rails and the table (drilled 4 5/16" holes in side of table, used 2" x 1/4" coach screws). Finally made up 65x12mm hardwood edging and after gluing on trimmed with router (edge trimming bit used)

Looks great

BTW, what brand of TS overhead guard are you running ...

Originally Posted by dazzler

Looks great

BTW, what brand of TS overhead guard are you running ...

Dazzler, that is the standard guard that comes with the Carbatec TS10L cabinet saw.

How do you get on using a router table fence as a rip fence on your saw? The Incra table saw fence has rails front and back to lock it in parallel to the blade. I would have thought having a single rail in the centre as the router table fences do would make it prone to racking?

Originally Posted by silentC

How do you get on using a router table fence as a rip fence on your saw? The Incra table saw fence has rails front and back to lock it in parallel to the blade. I would have thought having a single rail in the centre as the router table fences do would make it prone to racking?

Silent, it isn't intended as a rip fence but as a positioner. Incra actually calls their LS series the LS Positioner. I use it mainly for repeatable cuts such as cutting small strips for segmenting and multiple trenching with the dado blade. I have seen examples of the LS fence/positioner being used on bandsaws and drill presses as well. In my case it is not being used as my every day saw fence, the standard TL10S fence (Biesemeyer clone) does a good job at that.

Also, the way the Incra mounts would make it almost impossible for "racking" to occur. The mounting is very strong and stable. The forces in play for the sort of operations I have described above are essentially no different to using it on the router table.

I have seen examples of the LS fence/positioner being used on bandsaws and drill presses as well.

Yes I have seen that too and it is recommended for that purpose. A drill press is the same as a router to all intents - a cutter rotating around an axis that is centred on the column of the LS. Likewise for a bandsaw, the blade is centred on the column.

This is a different story with a circular saw and you don't want any racking at all because it can cause the workpiece to pinch between the blade and the fence, not to mention affecting accuracy. You'll be aware that the LS positioner is available with a pair of fence rails for when it is to be used with a tablesaw.

Anyway, just something to keep in mind and a word of caution to other people viewing this thread and thinking it will substitute for a proper rip fence.

Silent, as I said above, I am not using it as a rip fence.

But I really don't want this to be one of your protracted "gotta have the last word" threads.

Your extension table looks a million dollars. Well done
I ment to build one for my Jet Supersaw ages ago. Now that i can see what you've done, i must get on with it........one day

If you are running a strip of timber against it and cutting either through or a dado, then you are ripping. You can call it a 'positioner' if you want, but you are still ripping with it.

Why do you think they have the LS Table saw fence? Find me any information from Incra that suggests what you are doing is a recommended practice.

I reckon it's a bad practice.

Sorry mate, it all looks nice and everything but if I see something that I reckon is wrong, I'll point it out. It's up to you if you want to ignore me, that's your problem not mine. Just try not to make personal attacks, like suggesting I have to have the last word. That might be true but it's irrelevant to the discussion.

If you believe what you are doing is perfectly safe and supported by Incra, then let me have it with both barrels.

Just keep at the back of your mind that other people reading this thread might copy what you have done. How sure are you that it's safe? If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it.

As a long term incra positioner owner and user.. my system arrived yesterday afternoon...the solution to the concerns raised by SilentC would appear to me to be obvious: Use the the positioner to position the tablesaw's existing fence. Then the only thing that is being lost by Big Shed's innovative design in comparison with the full blown rail system is the flexibility to move the positioner to various stations throughout the range of the saw's extended table.