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10th September 2015, 02:31 AM #1Deceased
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Forstner Bits Set.
I ordered a set of replacement Forstner Bits which arrived today. They look to be machined to a much higher standard than those I have purchased in the past..
Stewie;
http://www.wizardproducts.com.au/p88...-piece-set.htm
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10th September 2015, 09:06 AM #2Intermediate Member
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thanks for this - just got me some too. they have 10 piece and 7 piece sets.
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10th September 2015, 08:35 PM #3
Famag from Germany
I have a set like that ,that I bought at the recent Perth TWW show.
I do like the Famag ones from Germany that I have also bought in the past.
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2nd October 2015, 03:55 AM #4
I ordered the larger set, which I used last weekend. The bits come in a useful box, but that is about the only kind thing I can say. The finish was poor compared to the Carbatec cheapies, edges appeared ragged, and they were dull. I needed to sharpen the 3/4" bit before it would cut. Not recommended.
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2nd October 2015, 10:34 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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How effectively do they clear themselves of chips? I have a few which just drive me nuts as they always pack up and smoke before I go one bit depth.
Hardwood birch, softwood pine/cedar = all the same.
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2nd October 2015, 11:35 AM #6
RV, that is the point. I chucked the 3/4" bit into my drill press and lowered it into softish Jarrah. It was like getting fine shavings/dust. The bit was heating up, and starting to blacken - this in a few seconds, even when retracting it to cool and expel chips. The cutting surfaces were ragged and dull. I used a couple of diamond paddles on them, and suddenly I was getting thick shavings being expelled from the hole.
They are a cheap set - about $65 (I cannot recall exactly) and so probably not worth making a number of phone calls or emails and then sending across the country after to return. I will contact the agent for comment.
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2nd October 2015, 12:36 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Are any of these inexpensive sets worthwhile? I have the Carbatec set (10 years? old) in a nice wooden box, and they are not up to much. The Maxi-Cut Forstners from Brett group buys are good, Lee Valley good for odd sizes (I have not pushed the odd sizes I purchased on a recent trip, but work well so far in hardwood). An Austrian (Stubai I think) 3/4" drilled around 12 dogholes in my 2" hardwood benchtop without any protest, after the Carbatec one gave up the ghost after 2 holes - and is still going strong years later. You get what you pay for I guess
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Matching the correct speed to dia. of the forstner bit is also an important factor if you want to eliminate overheating. http://www.wizardproducts.com.au/p88...-piece-set.htm
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2nd October 2015, 01:28 PM #9
Good point about speed, Stewie. In my case, I slow the speed down, so it is unlikely to be due to this factor. I think any burning is simply a result of the bit not cutting, which then forces it to spin in the same spot.
A would love to get Maxi-cut, or similar. I am prepared to pay more than Carbatec prices. However I need Imperial bits, and all the decent ones are Metric.
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2nd October 2015, 11:24 PM #11
Thanks Peter.
I looked at the Maxi-cut on the Lee Valley site. I note that they have "extenders" available. Are these necessary for each drill bit, or are they just optional to increase the depth?
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...at=1,180,42240
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3rd October 2015, 01:40 PM #13
Thanks Peter. That makes a purchase less complicated.
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4th October 2015, 04:32 AM #14GOLD MEMBER
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I have bought a few sets of Forstner bits and found that the Lee Valley and Maxi-Cut bits are High Speed Steel, and don't loose their temper if heated. I have also seen a number of other bits from India and China with and without a 'gold' plating job and they are plain carbon steel which does soften when heated to smoking hot;. The gold coloured plating does not have to be Titanium Nitride, it can be done with electroplated cadmium and other processes which do not give anything other than a false sense of security.
As for the Maxi-cut extensions, make sure they are clean and lubricated inside as they will lock on very tight, not a quick finger flick to remove the bit from the extension.
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4th October 2015, 12:40 PM #15The gold coloured plating does not have to be Titanium Nitride, it can be done with electroplated cadmium and other processes which do not give anything other than a false sense of security.
- Titanium Nitride Coating allows bits to stay cooler while drilling at higher speeds with prolonged effective work life.
They promise much. I did handle them at the recent Perth Woodshow and was impressed enough by their presentation there to consider them at the time.
To be fair, I will take some close-ups of the set I have - only used one so far - for others to determine whether they are value-for-money or just cheap-and-as-poor-as-all-the-others. It is probably a lesson that there are no free lunches.
Regards from Perth
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