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    Default Hare&Forbes ST-10c vs Carbatec TJZ10G

    Hi Guys,

    I'm looking at purchasing a tablesaw in the next couple of weeks and the budget can hold for an entry level contractors saw only.

    At the moment I'm looking at the Hare & Forbes ST-10c


    or the Carbatec TJZ10G



    It looks like they are basically the same machine except the Hare & Forbes seems to be a larger bench and includes a blade.

    Has anyone used these machines or have any pointers for me to look out for?

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    Sounds like at least two of us in Bris thinking along the same lines. The Hafco one certainly looks good, I hope to have a proper look at one this week.
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    When I was in H&F a little while back just kicking tyres I had a quick look at the ST-10C. Looks OK, but I didn't go into much detail. However. I did not get a straight answer when I asked if it could take dado blades. The response was "maybe only 1/2". So if a dado is important to you, better ask.


    Bob

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    Default looked at hafco saw today

    Had a look at the Hafco 10" contractors saw today, and it seemed pretty good. In Brisbane the salesbody said they'd have stock in on 20th October. They didn't have any of the sliding-table version on the floor to look at. The price on the first has dropped a little to $679, and on the latter fallen to $949.

    Both have induction motors. I noticed that the 10" contractors saw has the motor hanging out the back edge rather than underneath, but apparently the sliding table version has the motor in the cabinet. I think the carbatec one has the motor in the cabinet.

    The overall quality was pretty good although the one they had on display had a disconcertingly rusty table. The fence seemed reasonable, although it only locked at the front and had a little bit of play in it. In theory it can be tightened up more. Still, all in all, pretty good for the price as far as I could see.
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    I have to say, your homepage has a pretty neat menu
    Cool idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhook
    Both have induction motors. I noticed that the 10" contractors saw has the motor hanging out the back edge rather than underneath, but apparently the sliding table version has the motor in the cabinet. I think the carbatec one has the motor in the cabinet.
    The carbatec model also has the motor hanging out the back. I think you will find most entry level models will have this feature (or is it problem?).

    I'll have to drop down this weekend and have a look at the H&F model. The Carbatec model looked solid but if I can save a few dollars then I can put it into something useful like.....wood!

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean
    I have to say, your homepage has a pretty neat menu
    Cool idea.
    Thank you. Since it was going to be a menu I thought "why not make it a menu..."
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    Hi Craig,
    I have an earlier edition of the ST10c which does have a lock on both ends of the fence.
    I bought it 2nd hand out of the Trading Post for $150 UNUSED! The previous owner said that it had never been any good, but a quick inspection showed that he had not assembled it properly, had not set the tilt stop or the mitre fence, and the blade was loose. As well, the whole thing was covered in black spray paint, table and all. Half an hour with a spanner and screwdriver and it's been working beautifully, even better lately with a new 60 tooth blade from Henry Bros.
    Graeme

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    one of my mates bought a H and F 10 inch t/saw with slide table, not a happy boy, has now leant toward C/Tec gear for his thicknesser and jointer.

    I think his big gripe was with stickyness of slide table and time needed for contruction.

    Most of us are amateua woodworkers not professional engineers and therefore need easy to assemble machinery. (although I think we have more common sense than most as we still have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs after playing with our sharp toys.

    I bought a Delta contractor (much dearer) but again it took hours to assemble.

    Good shopping.
    Arthur

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    Default Delta 10" Contractor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur
    I bought a Delta contractor (much dearer) but again it took hours to assemble.
    Those are on my comparison list as well. Have you any comments you'd like to share regarding the Delta contractor saw? Good points, bad point, reasons to cuddle it, reasons to curse it?
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    i love my delta!!!, solid construction, made in the USA, all bits go together very well, great fence included (unifence) great motor. extension table great, price : expensive (just over $2000) only negative is the mitre gauge which although is good, leaves a bit to be desired so i added a Incra Mitre 1000 which is great. and added a home made slide table as the optional slide table was $800.

    The table takes a Dado set well also.

    The Table is the "Delta 10 inch Platinum Contractor"

    The guys a t Cardatec in Syd where i bought it said they were going to discontinue importing it, i guess because of it's price but have rethought their strategy and decided to keep it coming into australia.

    I was also looking at the JET supersaw but coming in from asia put me off buying it.

    Arthur

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