Thanks: 0
Likes: 0
Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 1 to 15 of 31
-
10th July 2007, 01:43 PM #1Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2006
- Location
- Victoria
- Age
- 45
- Posts
- 96
Jointers and thicknessers: Advice needed
Hi All,
I'm slowly but surely getting back into the woodworking.. But i have a question or two about both jointers and thicknessers.
I have never used either before and would like a little more information.
What are they and what are they used for?
My understanding is that both of them are essentially big electric planes. The jointer has the blades bottom mounted and the wood passes over it and is used to flatten edges. The thicknesser has the blades top mounted and the wood passes underneath. The difference is that the thicknesser (as the name suggests) allows you to set the thickness of the wood.
So would there be any purpose to having both in your shop? What are the typical applications for each machine? I think I have a fair idea but i wanted to hear from others who have used them and have some experience.
Anyway.. All advice and experience will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
-
10th July 2007 01:43 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Age
- 2010
- Posts
- Many
-
10th July 2007, 01:55 PM #2
Yep...big electric planes is about right.
A thicknesser makes a piece of wood thinner whilst a jointer makes a piece of wood squarer.
Neither can perform miracles.
They are really only of value when you routinely use rough sawn timber, second hand timber or love working with odd timber dimensions.....
I have a 15" thicknesser..........makes nice wood shavings!!Ours is not to reason why.....only to point and giggle.
-
10th July 2007, 02:16 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Aug 2004
- Location
- Perth WA
- Posts
- 2,035
I have a 15" thicknesser and an 8" wide long bed jointer.
A few weeks ago they both come into their own. I needed some timber for door jambs and window linings/sills. Every piece of timber I looked at in the hardware shop was bent/twisted to some degree including all the dear stuff.
I brought what I wanted and then went home and proceeded to straighten the timber. Using the jointer first to straighten and square up one flat and one edge and then using the thicknesser to finish off the other sides to the required width/thickness. It was a real pleasure and made life much easier to work with straight and true timber.
-
10th July 2007, 02:39 PM #4
Jointer:
Remove warp from faces, straighten edges
Joint edges for gluing
Cut chamfers and bevels
Relieve bottoms of feet etc.
Cut rebates
Taper legs
Basically anything you can do with a handplane.
Thicknesser:
Make one edge or face parallel to the other
Plane to an even thickness
Remove warp from a face - needs a sled
Do a search on "jointer" and "thicknesser" and you'll find endless pages of the pros, cons and general argument about their usefulness in relation to each other or otherwise."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
-
10th July 2007, 03:21 PM #5Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2006
- Location
- Victoria
- Age
- 45
- Posts
- 96
Thanks Folks,
Now my next question.
Ive tak3n a look at the Carbatec website and there is a thing called a "planer thincknesser". These things appear to be jointers that convert into thicknessers...
Is this an appropriate tool for a small workshop or is it advisable to steer clear?
Thanks again
Joe
-
10th July 2007, 03:23 PM #6
Another can of worms.
Some people love them, some people hate them.
Pros
Good for small workshops
Larger jointing capacity than most jointers
Cons
Time taken to swap between modes
There's probably more but they're the main ones."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
-
10th July 2007, 03:28 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Aug 2004
- Location
- Perth WA
- Posts
- 2,035
Along the same lines as silentC. Its your own preference, horses for courses.
-
10th July 2007, 04:24 PM #8
The Jointer and Thicknesser are a team. If you try and thickness on a jointer you might get a tapered board. If you try and joint on a thicknesser you might end up with a banana board that is the same thickness all the way along.
I have a combo machine which is good as I don't have the space for both. It would be nice to have individual machines but I don't have the space.
I personally think that you will get more accurate machines if you go for separate machines but you might never know the difference if you are limited by space like me. I guess it all comes down to can you afford both and do you have the space to put them in.
StudleyAussie Hardwood Number One
-
10th July 2007, 04:30 PM #9If you try and thickness on a jointer you might get a tapered board. If you try and joint on a thicknesser you might end up with a banana board that is the same thickness all the way along.
Yes they are a team, it's great to have both but they are not co requisite."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
-
11th July 2007, 09:50 AM #10Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2006
- Location
- Victoria
- Age
- 45
- Posts
- 96
Thanks for the advice all...
Now to plan how to convince SWMBO that i need one.. haha
-
11th July 2007, 09:54 AM #11
Easy!
Think of the money you will save on timber if you can recycle, buy rough sawn, or mill your own from trees! (You need a chainsaw too)."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
-
11th July 2007, 10:27 AM #12GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Aug 2004
- Location
- Perth WA
- Posts
- 2,035
-
11th July 2007, 01:43 PM #13SENIOR MEMBER
- Join Date
- Aug 2003
- Location
- Wodonga
- Age
- 59
- Posts
- 707
-
11th July 2007, 01:47 PM #14Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2006
- Location
- Victoria
- Age
- 45
- Posts
- 96
I dont think it'll be all that hard.. i mean just last sunday and monday i managed to spend over $300 on the shed (vice, #4 stanley plane, non powered Compund mitre saw, drum sanders and some wood) and all i had to do was let her spend 160 on Olga Burg (designer) handbags from DFO on saturday.. haha
-
11th July 2007, 04:41 PM #15Hewer of wood
- Join Date
- Jan 2002
- Location
- Melbourne, Aus.
- Age
- 71
- Posts
- 12,746
Re the basic Carbatec combo machine, make yourself a strong cup of coffee and settle down to read:
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=14610Cheers, Ern
Similar Threads
-
Stupid question about jointers & thicknessers
By FlyingDuck in forum HAND TOOLS - POWEREDReplies: 8Last Post: 16th July 2005, 12:15 PM -
Mid range Thicknessers and Jointers
By wardg in forum HAND TOOLS - POWEREDReplies: 12Last Post: 10th November 2004, 08:33 AM