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Thread: MBS300 - thoughts and comments
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26th May 2004, 02:21 PM #1
MBS300 - thoughts and comments
OK, the time has come to update the orange peril, after years of not quite getting 'round tuit.
I have spent quite a lot of time looking at a whole range of cabinet saw / contractor saw options over the years, and finally settled (I think ) on the MBS300.
This saw seems to have taken off in learning institutions (probably b/c it meets OH&S requirements). However, I know there are some users of this saw out there (soundman, sailor ..), and am keen to hear your comments - good and bad. I am particularly interested in the performance of the fence system, accuracy and alignment as a whole and any experience with the sliding table.
The fence on the one currently set up in Carbatec Vic flexes when applying heavy thumb pressure at the area of the blade. Not happy about that.
Anyway - any comments or thoughts greatly appreciated.
Thanks
(before posting this I did perform a search on this forum ...promise )
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28th May 2004, 06:33 AM #2Novice
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Hi Bunyip,
I saw nobody had replied to this, so I thought I may as well. I have the MBS250 with is pretty much the same as the 300. I bought mine second hand (NZ$1200 with sliding table so was too good to pass up). The supplier sent me new rollers and bits for the fence as the old ones had worn. I wasn't too happy with the fence when I had replecaed everything - there was still a bit of slop in it, which may have been due to it being second hand, so I bit the bullet and bought the Biesemeyer 50" fence as I do a lot of panel work. Strangely enough, I had to shim one end of the B's rail by about 3mm to get it parallel to the mitre slot, which I wasn't happy with. The sliding table is great, oncde I spent about 5 frustrating hours getting it lined up correctly - the manual would have come in useful there. I had to cut down the fence tube of the B. to clear the sliding table though. I am looking at getting some sort of arbour extension so it will take a dado blade - apparently available but I haven't looked in to it yet - anyone know where these are obtainable?
In all, I am very happy with the saw. I started with the Triton too, along with all its accessories. Nest I went to a Delta Homecraft, circa 1930 and finally this.
On another side note, and I am sorry to hijack your thread, but as one of the belts on the saw is getting frayed, has anyone replaced the triple belts with link belts?
Andrew
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28th May 2004, 09:37 AM #3Originally Posted by BigRed
http://www.chevpac.co.nz/webshop/ite...153638%7C%7C25
cheers,
Tony
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28th May 2004, 02:51 PM #4Novice
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Thanks Tony. I never knew these guys existed!
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28th May 2004, 04:18 PM #5Originally Posted by BigRed
There are one or two places in Chch also but I'm damned if I can find any equipment suppliers worth a salt in Wellington that actually have any quality gear on display. There was a three year old MBS300 in AKL (complete with sliding table and 50" fence) on TradeMe recently that went for $2200. I'm kinda kicking myself for not bidding on it now as that was effectively equivalent to 50% off new prices.
Your $1200 for the MBS250 with sliding table also looks like a darn good buy. How old was it when you bought it?
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29th May 2004, 02:30 PM #6Novice
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Hi Tony,
The saw was about 10 years old. Have you had a look at http://www.machine.co.nz/db_items_list.asp?Alpha=Z - they have an MBS300 at $2800 + GST. These are the guys I bought the 250 from. They supplied all the new bits after I complained that the fence was stuffed. I was tempted to buy this instead of the 250, but at less than 1/2 the cost, it was hard to justify. I agree about Wellie - nothing around to look at. I have bought a lot of machinery from Macma in Akld and they are great to deal with and have good product and pricing. I'd have enough of their stuff to open a showroom down here!
Andrew
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30th May 2004, 10:32 PM #7
I'm very happy with mine its a good solid machine. the fence is a besemyer knock off and I have no problem with mine, & believe me it gets the odd thump.
two cautions
the arbour is short & wont take a dado. (that doesn't bother me)
the motor in mine seems to draw more current than I would expect from a 3HP motor. (It doesn't bother me it runs on its own 20amp circuit).
with any big saw you will need at least a 15 amp outlet (better still make it a 20A)
buy the overhead guide. bore it out & put a bigger dust hose on it. mine now has 2 x 3" hoses.
carbatec have some new machines that may be worth looking at.
still the mbs300 is a solid performer that earns its keep & does what its told.
cheers
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31st May 2004, 12:07 PM #8
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Soundman,
probably too late for you but on my last visit to Carbatec I noticed that they are now carrying a dado blade adaptor for the MBS300ssgt
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31st May 2004, 09:17 PM #9
Thanks for the thoughts guys - nothing there to dissuade me from the purchase.
And thanks also to our Kiwi friends over there in Kiwi land. Hallooooo over there
OK - now just have to write out another cheque (handing is cramping at the thought) :eek:
Soundman, thanks for the wiring tip. Have just had the new shed wired, with its very own power saw circuit (thank goodnes there is a sparky in the family).This message has been proudly brought to you by Bunyip
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2nd June 2004, 08:24 PM #10Originally Posted by BigRed
And Hallooooo back to you Bunyip...
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2nd June 2004, 08:35 PM #11
An interesting feature of the mbs300 is that the arbour is a removable item. aparantly you unbolt the securing rod & pull the arbour out as you would in a spindle moulder. so there should theoretical be a variety of arbour arrangements available.
Its just another indication of the quality of the design, they havn't just threaded the end of the arbour shaft.
you can bet most of the machines with a 5/8 arbour thats exactly what has been done.
I'm not concerned about using a dado set, they sound too damn scary on a table saw for my liking & I have plenty of other ways of doing anything you might do with a dado on a table saw.
I understand they are very good on a radial arm if set up right.
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4th June 2004, 05:29 PM #12Novice
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Originally Posted by Tonz