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    Default Smoking Biscuit Joiners

    I have two buscuit joiners a Ryobi and and Archer. (Don't ask me why 2) Both of them cause the timber to burn when I use them.

    Can anyone tell me why? I have used toher buscuit joiners ( Porter Cable and Triton) and neither produced any smoke. The Ryobi and Archer produce so much I am concerned they might start a fire.

    B.O.B.

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    crap blades (cutters) I'd say
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    It is Ryobi and Archer. That's why.

    By the time you get your third one you'll ask yourself why didn't I get a porta cable in the first place.

    Buy good tool buy it once.
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    BOB,
    I have both a Ryobi (hand held) and a Triton (in the Triton table) and neither produce any burning (we are talking smoke from the wood - not smoke from the machine I hope ) and I've done a few biscuits lately using both.

    The first thing that comes to mind is that your cutter is blunt or damaged.
    The only other thing I can think of is that you are taking too much time to cut the slot. I find in either case it's just a it's just a firm, quick push and release.

    Make sure you are not tilting the hand held as you move it in out out of the cut as I'm sure that would cause some issues.

    Ian

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    pees them orf and get a porter cable. archer is the toilet brand, way up there with GMC and ozito.

    seriously either blunt cutters or you feeding the blade in to slow - quick jab into the timber...
    Zed

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    All of the above, but maybe also dirty cutters.

    Spray them with oven cleaner and clean off with kitchen scourer. All the gum, resin, tar and burns go instantly.
    Bodgy
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    I think I tried smoking a biscuit jointer once, but it didn't have a patch on home-grown. :eek:

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    See - that's what happens when you don't read the post correctly - he said JOINER not JOINTER - still it surprised me it took 6 replies before somene tried it on

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Smith View Post
    ......still it surprised me it took 6 replies before somene tried it on

    Ian
    It's surprised me that it's taken 7 replies and the Domino squad haven't jumped in

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    The first time it happened I thought it was because I was pushing it too quickly, so I slowed down. I'll try a quick push.

    I had a long hard look at a Domino, then I looked at the price.

    When I out grew my short pants way back when and left the sanctity of my father's shed I made a commitment to myself that whenever I needed a tool (hand or power) I would be they best one for the job. This approach has served me well until the plethora of specialist power tool we now have hit the market. The range and variety is now huge. So what is a boy to do when you just have to have everything in the "lolly shop"?

    I'll just have to return to my fundamental principles. Buy the best first time and bugger the cost!

    Thanks for the advice.

    BOB

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    I've got the Arsher as well, other than being a POS it does manage to cut a slot without smoking and I can get reasonable results from it. Try changing style as suggested and if that doesn't work perhaps get a CMT cutter from Carbatech as the original blades may be blunt or damaged.

    John.

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    Have you got the blades in the wrong way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    I think I tried smoking a biscuit jointer once, but it didn't have a patch on home-grown. :eek:
    Also I found it bluddy difficult to get the paper round it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodgy View Post
    Spray them with oven cleaner .
    I wouldn't recommend that as many oven cleaners have nasty effects on carbide cutters. OK (I think!) on HSS though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie View Post
    It's surprised me that it's taken 7 replies and the Domino squad haven't jumped in
    Nah Mate!, if it was about a Lamello getting all smokey - then maybe. Archer & Ryobi - not quite the same thing, but probably ok (with sharp cutters!) for light duty.

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