Thread: How do you clean sump oil?

You could leave the vest in your vehicle and wear black shorts and black tshirt or black overalls or just let the chain oil turn em black.Between the bar and chains wearing faster and needing more soap so your clothes dont feel so oily [looking black is OK but feeling oily and smelling like sump oil is harder to handle] probably dont save so much .Cutting in most positions is ok with sump oil but if the saw is above you old fish and chip oil is not as dirty.

Old timer tales of using toilet rolls and the like are just that - there is no physical filter that can clean sump oil back to operator and environmental safe levels. Just removing the black stuff, which is largely suspended metal fragments and soot, may make it look OK but the real dangers are the dissolved metals and cracked oil - both of which are carcinogenic and serious ground water polluting contaminants.

The reality is it can't be really cleaned up without some serious industrial chemistry. To get the suspended and dissolved metals out you need to add nitric and hydrochloric acid on an equal volume basis and shake the container for a good day or two. The metals will move into the acid phase which can then be decanted. Now you have oil contaminated with nitric and hydrochloric acid! So it now needs to be washed multiple times with water. Now you have a heap of contaminated water to dispose of as well! The cracked oil is a much tougher and best left to specialist processing.

teh oil is easy to filter.

we use a 3-20l drums.

one full of dirty oil. hose from the bottom to teh top of the second witch is full of rags. mainly old sheets. tehn a pipe from teh bottom of that into the third drum.

the middle drum works best if you put in 4" of crunched up chicken mesh then the cloth in (not to tightly) then a peice of mozzie wire. the oil will run threw the cloth slowly and come out clean.

it may be carsnogenic but here is a list of other things that are (according to epidemiologists)

Acetaldehyde, acrylamide, acrylonitril, abortion, agent orange, alar, alcohol, air pollution, aldrin, alfatoxin, arsenic, arsine, asbestos, asphalt fumes, atrazine, AZT, baby food, barbequed meat, benzene, benzidine, benzopyrene, beryllium, beta-carotene, betel nuts, birth control pills, bottled water, bracken, bread, breasts, brooms, bus stations, calcium channel blockers, cadmium, candles, captan, carbon black, carbon tetrachloride, careers for women, casual sex, car fumes, celery, charred foods, cooked foods, chewing gum, Chinese food, Chinese herbal supplements, chips, chloramphenicol, chlordane, chlorinated camphene, chlorinated water, chlorodiphenyl, chloroform, cholesterol, low cholesterol, chromium, coal tar, coffee, coke ovens, crackers, creosote, cyclamates, dairy products, deodorants, depleted uranium, depression, dichloryacetylene, DDT, dieldrin, diesel exhaust, diet soda, dimethyl sulphate, dinitrotouluene, dioxin, dioxane, epichlorhydrin, ethyle acrilate, ethylene, ethilene dibromide, ethnic beliefs,ethylene dichloride, Ex-Lax, fat, fluoridation, flying, formaldehyde, free radicals, french fries, fruit, gasoline, genes, gingerbread, global warming, gluteraldehyde, granite, grilled meat, Gulf war, hair dyes, hamburgers, heliobacter pylori, hepatitis B virus, hexachlorbutadiene, hexachlorethane, high bone mass, hot tea, HPMA, HRT, hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide, incense, infertility, jewellery, Kepone, kissing, lack of exercise, laxatives, lead, left handedness, Lindane, Listerine, low fibre diet, magnetic fields, malonaldehyde, mammograms, manganese, marijuana, methyl bromide, methylene chloride, menopause, microwave ovens, milk hormones, mixed spices, mobile phones, MTBE, nickel, night lighting, night shifts, nitrates, not breast feeding, not having a twin, nuclear power plants, Nutrasweet, obesity, oestrogen, olestra, olive oil, orange juice, oxygenated gasoline, oyster sauce, ozone, ozone depletion, passive smoking, PCBs, peanuts, pesticides, pet birds, plastic IV bags, polio vaccine, potato crisps (chips), power lines, proteins, Prozac, PVC, radio masts, radon, railway sleepers, red meat, Roundup, saccharin, salt, sausage, selenium, semiconductor plants, shellfish, sick buildings, soy sauce, stress, strontium, styrene, sulphuric acid, sun beds, sunlight, sunscreen, talc, tetrachloroethylene, testosterone, tight bras, toast, toasters, tobacco, tooth fillings, toothpaste (with fluoride or bleach), train stations, trichloroethylene, under-arm shaving, unvented stoves, uranium, UV radiation, vegetables, vinyl bromide, vinyl chloride, vinyl fluoride, vinyl toys, vitamins, vitreous fibres, wallpaper, weedkiller (2-4 D), welding fumes, well water, weight gain, winter, wood dust, work, x-rays.

Thanks Carl, but what stops the dirty oil running down the side of the second drum bypassing the rags? Is a slow rate in the centre of the drum enough to stop this?
Glenn

dosent seam to be a problem.


for quantities up to about 10-15L you can also hang a sheet doubled up from teh roof with a drum under it and poor the oil into the sheet. it will drain threw the sheet witch will strain most of the gunk out.

For the slabbing bar, I find it better using automatic transmission oil rather than sump oil...

Try gargling it , and then squeezing it out between your teeth. Works wonders, but is a bit time consuming

PS We do things differntetly here in Qld

Originally Posted by JillB

Try gargling it , and then squeezing it out between your teeth. Works wonders, but is a bit time consuming

PS We do things differntetly here in Qld

Great idea Jill but as you say time comsuming. We are lucky here being on an acre and have a septic toilet system so we just pour the oil down the toilet and flush it as usual and then let it go through the septic tank and when it reaches the overflow baffles in the tank it goes down a pipe connected to the tank and we collect it in containers and re-use it again, perfect. If we have too much we use it for cordial. Diluting it at a ratio of 4:1 it looks and tastes a bit like coke.

why not people are using old cooking oil to run the bi-vehicles makes driving behind them a bugger though smells of fish n chips hamburgers wafting through the air.

I just read this artical these dunny role filters seem very good.
Anatomy of a Frantz toilet paper bypass oil filter
Maybe less messy and a lot smaller to use one of these to filter for chain oil with gravity feed.

Well after about 6 hours of reading about these filters I have decided to instal one in my hylux. They sound like a great idea the only problem seems to be it's harder to read your dipstick as the oil isn't black.
The US Frantz brand is sold in Berwick (Melb)
MILMAG make one in WA
Jackmaster sell their model in Thomastown which I'm picking up tomorrow.

Is it necessary to clean the oil before you use it throught the saw? Won't the gunk settle on the bottom of the drum?

Mark

its not nessasary but your filters get cloged quickly and you turn black.

weisboy,
how does the washing machine cope with cleaning the sheets