Thread: Fish and chip oil for bar?

I use Canola in my aux oilers since 2007 - doesn't seem to have made any difference whether I use bar oil or canola, but I still use regular bar oil in the saw. I'd definitely use F&C oil in the aux oiler - does it smell?

Thought about using it but the smell would make me too hungry.
mmmmm aaaaar, frying grease (homer)

If you put a heater in the fuel tank - common in Europe for winter - you can run a diesel car on the stuff. There have been a few print articles over the years about a bloke in Germany who owns a chain of fish shops & runs his Mercedes on the stuff - suitably strained first.

Originally Posted by bsrlee

If you put a heater in the fuel tank - common in Europe for winter - you can run a diesel car on the stuff. There have been a few print articles over the years about a bloke in Germany who owns a chain of fish shops & runs his Mercedes on the stuff - suitably strained first.

There's a club/group of people in Perth that buy up used F&C oil and filter it and mix it with a few additives and run their 4WD diesels on it. The last I heard was they were running into trouble with the feds for not paying fuel excise.

You can make bio diesel from any cooking oil , but the fats contained there in have to be separated from the oil.
To put it simply and the way I understand it , the oil is mixed with acetone or a similar thinner and heated ( which could be dangerous) this aids in separation ,then after the fats have been drained off and any solids filtered out, what is left is suitable to run a diesel engine on.
Plenty of info on the net .Just Google Bio diesel.
I have heard about the Feds , bitching about no getting fuel tax from it , but IIRC Peter Costello said it was not worth chasing the tax for it. Most shops are happy to get rid of the waste with out having to pay costs at the local tips or recycling center to get rid of it.As it's officially not a fuel , then no tax should be collected MHO only
There was a bio diesel plant in Darwin , but closed because it went broke, not sure why though.
Interestingly the original diesel design was built to run on peanut oil , but the design was modified to use Diesel ,a by product of petrol production.

I have been running 2 landcruisers,small truck slabber and painting ends of log and timber with cooking oil for the last 2 years.
cheers Dave

Originally Posted by Woodlee

Diesel ,a by product of petrol production.

yeah exactly and the buggers make a killing on petrol as it is so why the heck is diesl more friggin expensive than petrol bloody mongrels

Originally Posted by Sigidi

yeah exactly and the buggers make a killing on petrol as it is so why the heck is diesl more friggin expensive than petrol bloody mongrels

That's obvious, more voters use petrol than diesel.

Originally Posted by Sigidi

yeah exactly and the buggers make a killing on petrol as it is so why the heck is diesl more friggin expensive than petrol bloody mongrels

I'm digressing here so I'll try to be quick. May not be possible for me.. Diesel is extracted from the crude oil before petrol is extracted. It is a separate product. By product is not strictly true.

A few years back diesel fuel was much cheaper than petrol, but the laws of supply and demand have taken over. Two factors have changed. Industry takes even more diesel and more cars are made in a diesel version.

Consequently there is a higher demand than previously. Our good fiends (sorry that should read friends) at the refineries can easily charge more money and get away with it.

Regards
Paul

I have a good friend, now retired through ill-health, who used to be a logging contractor. We shall call him Bob, mainly because that is the name that appears on his birth certificate (actually it was probably Robert).

Bob told me he was always being hounded by the rangers in the state forest. Apparantly they were very concerned that when he changed the oil in his D8 dozer he would dump the old sump product in the forest. Bob would never have done that.

But he took great delight in explaining to them how he meticulously saved every single drop. He described to the rangers how he stored it in drums and then put it into the reservoir in his chainsaw and sprayed it all around the bush. And Bob said the rangers fumed but there was nothing they could do about it.

For a while I ran diesel sump oil in my chainsaw. It's OK, but it is messy and there is always a black scum around the motor. Bar oil has a fairly high viscosity, but I can't really say whether sump oil (we used diesel because it is high detergent, not that that was obvious from the mess it created) shortened the bar life.

I would have had to have run two saws cutting identical timber to get a take on that.

Regards
Paul