Thread: Long girders

Nice setup you have there with the mill under cover, wish I had abit more space and neigbours were further away so I could set up like that.

With your final sizing do you follow the same procedure all over? Be keen to see more pics of the rest of the process.

was the log you were doing in the pic 7.2mtrs ? or do you have to skid it in to the machine? the reason i ask is i can only cut 6 meters. i just realised how it can be doneusing such a small diamater log and what is being produced you don't need the blade to go past the log to swing.it's all falling into place now,thanks inter

Hey inter, do I see the end of some skids under that sawdust. Time to get the shovel out or back blade. I have the same dilemma. Nice to have a roof over your head but then you have to move the sawdust. I think a mini excavator would be just the thing. If only SWMBO would let me buy one. Till then I'll keep using a shovel.
cheers
Steve

Yes stopper there are 4 skids under there, I like to keep the sawdust about 3-4 " below the tops I shovel the dust onto the waste stacked on the forks of my dozer every log then every week or so back blade from the outside rail.
charlsie yes it was 7.2m long & I only have the 6.1 m rails, I suspend the saw carriage from a roof beam & take the outer rail off, then slip the head pipes to one side, then take the 2 outer winder uprights off, then fork the log into position & the re-assemble, takes about 15 min
Burnsy I just keep cutting & rolling taking off no more than 30mm a pass, untill I have < 230mm in thickness on the 200mm face, then I can cut to 250mm wide vertically down each face dead straight to finish those faces, then I will just finish off the 250mm faces horizontally propping the extensions so they dont droop. I can get the finished sizes within 1 or 2 mm , with heart centred timber the heart has to be within the middle 33% of the piece
regards inter

Inter. Fantastic.

I'd love to build a house log cab style with 2oo x 2oomm like yours.
Exposed rafters, high ceilings and so on.

Whens the timber ready for work? 2yrs?

Love it.

Tony

Nice work InterTD6, can't wait to see them in place.

As soon as its cut its ready to go in place, timber seasons naturally at 25mm a year so I cant wait 8 years to use them
regards inter

putting up beams tomorrow

Originally Posted by InterTD6

putting up beams tomorrow

You got a plan of your house you can post up, looks interesting.

inter what have you coated the posts in ? looks like used motor oil?

25mm a yr!

So after such movement in the girders and other timbers, will the joins open up and cause structural grief?

Can we see the plans too?

8yrs is too long to wait I agree.

Tony.

Inter by the look of your picture, you're running an 8-27, is that right? if so why not cut the beam lying down, instead of standing up, this way you can cut it using a double cut and no need for trimming with chainsaw, rolling the log or anything like that?

I can cut 7.2m with the standard 6.1m rails and standard half depth extensions, flipping the blade at each end. Mind you for about $500 you could just buy the 2m full depth extension kit and just roll/push those 7.2m logs in without having to take anything apart, lifting the head up to the rafters, anything like that. It seems like you have to do a fair amount of them? they'd definitely pay for themselves with what you have to do and also give you more flexibility when/if you go out on jobs?

Sigidi, yes its a 827,there is a reason for the way I cut it that way, my bed skids are level & parallel with the carriage, so once the top is off & the side is cut every cut after that gives square sides to the post, for the first cuts you have to work your way round the log so it wont split at the ends from the tension, when I first started I had a couple of logs split more than a meter at the ends. I priced the 2m extensions & they were $800, that was the last long girder I have to do on my house so there is no need for them now.
I can't put up a copy of the plan because of copyright implications.
The post are stained with spa n deck wood acrylic tinted to our specs
With shrinkage I have will have to accomodate for it with coverstrips at critical locations
regards inter

Yeah no real bonus in buying 'em on your last one. Mine I managed to get past the minister of furnace (when they where $500) so I could cut the 52 more 7.5m joists we needed for our house, I got the purchased passed, but it turned out we couldn't get any 8m logs in - So I never ended up using 'em for the joists, but they have been bloody handy every since. Especially on jobs when people don't understand what one end of the logs in line with each other and all laying next to each other means, then you have to have the extra length to avoid moving the mill.