Thread: How big is my problem?

Originally Posted by

You still haven't answered the second question.

I'm also very perplexed about the continual references about members speaking a bunch of junk too, these off hand comments keep getting thrown out there but never get expanded upon - almost like guerrilla hit and run tactics, say something then run from it.

I'm more than happy to discuss anything I have said which is nonsense or done anything which is untoward, but it seems like as soon as questions are asked about these statements and comments regarding bull dust members are speaking and now fake member accounts and the like, then nothing.

Maybe you could find out as an administrator or at least settle things down for the good of the forum ????


I think Travis has really said it all.........

Originally Posted by itsposs

It comes down to use and experience. Get out from under ya rock get out there and see for your self I have and do every day. I wont even use the mill I brought to try and MIll the Timber I am felling atm. You need to look at our timber densitys as well We see big logs on video but the weight of our big logs compared to their big logs is well over double bit like the price of those MIlls really double.

sounds like you bought the wrong mill. A lucas will cut anything

Well I ll take that all on board. I ll bite my tongue as this therads about GTs timber and problem as for hit and run I am in and out working atm
Johny a lucas will cut any thing Ive never said it wont my gripe with the lucas mill is not what it doesnt cut. ok now I ll go to bed holding up question If you look at the Timberking for sale thread potos https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...a_tk2000_5.jpg In that photo you can see the cross braces on the log deck then just behind them you can see the lugs to put on more cross braces there for the those cross braces are bolted in if not tightened properly the log droping on to the deck can cause them to move you ll also notice that they are folded sheet metal not solid steel rhs https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...a_tk2000_3.jpg All the adjustment for deck height is on threaded jacks how many logs bouncing on the threaded bar before they are cactus with striped threads (Lucas got that sorted with their winder system as in it's capacity to lift is far more then it needs to ) they arnt designed to hold a working load. and you have six of those winder legs supporting that log deck as I dont have more pictures to keep going i hope that you can get the idea of what am saying 21'is a bout 6.4 meters so a 36" = 90cm as I am in QLD its a 63x90x1 Mill log that equals
4.008 cube that weighs in at 4.8 ton that there bouncing around on that deck it isnt going to last long. As for hit and run tactic s Allen I spend most week night 280km from home in a tent while I am cutting I dont get the net till I come home internet cafe

i haven't posted on here for a wile but i have been reading, this isnt a good way to start but i just cant stand people who pretend to know everything about something they have no idea about.

Originally Posted by itsposs

Well I ll take that all on board. I ll bite my tongue as this therads about GTs timber and problem as for hit and run I am in and out working atm
Johny a lucas will cut any thing Ive never said it wont my gripe with the lucas mill is not what it doesnt cut. another statment without any facts or explination

ok now I ll go to bed holding up question If you look at the Timberking for sale thread potos https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...a_tk2000_5.jpg In that photo you can see the cross braces on the log deck then just behind them you can see the lugs to put on more cross braces there for the those cross braces are bolted in if not tightened properly the log droping on to the deck can cause them to move so if the mill isnt set up properly then it can break, same for any machine, the cross braces should be right at bottom when installed anyway.

you ll also notice that they are folded sheet metal not solid steel rhs 1.5mm folded sheet is just as stron as 1.5mm RHS

https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...a_tk2000_3.jpg All the adjustment for deck height is on threaded jacks how many logs bouncing on the threaded bar before they are cactus with striped threads
(Lucas got that sorted with their winder system as in it's capacity to lift is far more then it needs to ) they arnt designed to hold a working load. and you have six of those winder legs supporting that log deck. they are made with a very coarse thread, and teh weigh on then constantly (not weight hitting them with a run up) and the weight is spred over 6 not just on 1, it would take an huge amount of weight to break them

as I dont have more pictures to keep going i hope that you can get the idea of what am saying 21'is a bout 6.4 meters so a 36" = 90cm as I am in QLD its a 63x90x1 Mill log that equals
4.008 cube that weighs in at 4.8 ton that there bouncing around on that deck it isnt going to last long. why would it be bouncing around on the log deck? a good operator wouldnt let it bounce around, there are ways of sliding and lowering so its done gently

As for hit and run tactic s Allen I spend most week night 280km from home in a tent while I am cutting I dont get the net till I come home internet cafe mate you have posted consistently every day since the 26th, and have answered no questions that have been asked of you, just made confusing rude remarks

lets have a look at the experience you speak from, you rang me and allan late last year from WA asking questions about milling, lucas mills, contract milling and the like. you have moved over to qld done a #### load of reading and looking at pictures, decided you dont like a lot of mills off a few dealers and i believe ordered a band saw mill from the states. witch is yet to arrive.

you went and did a falling ticket what 6 weeks back or sompthing that took a day or 2? with no prior experiance,even RPL will be more than 2 days. an intermediate ticket should take 3 days minimum and have you cut down 6 trees with atleaste 1 day of solid theory. advanced should be 4-5days and you should have cut down heavy leaners, spur trees, stag trees, and fall with not more than a 15% error on direction of fall on any tree.

total milling experience = 0
experience with qld logs & timber = 6 months
falling experience = 6 weeks.

we are yet to see any pictures of logs you have fallen. no pics it didnt happen.

dont talk like your the be all and end all when you are not mate.

how about you answer some questions

- what did you meant by members speaking junk? most of the members on here are experienced timber workers and good blokes.
- what fake member accounts are you referring to?
- what is your gripe with lucas mills?
and show us some pics of the logs you are cutting and some of your stumps and I might take you a bit more seriously.

couldn't have said it better myself

Originally Posted by Sigidi

couldn't have said it better myself

what he said

The posts for this thread have gone way off topic and personal. A few have even been deleted due to them being considered as personal attacks or just to fire up others that will not be tollerated by the moderators.

Be warned, continue personal attacks and you will be banned.

Thread closed.

Gonetroppo - please start another thread and post pics of the timber if and when you actually get them out.

I have reopened this thread but Neils warning still stands.

The reason is that I want an answer from Itsposs about this cryptic message here where you are accusing someone of using another pseudonym to have a go at you.

I have asked once and you have ignored it.

Facts please, not a rant or ramble.

Quote:
Originally Posted by itsposs
Care factors pretty low now on your thoughts Allen. So What ever. Gotta love fake member accounts What are you on about here?

Sorry this is a bit off topic, but I just wanted to welcome weissy boy back and congratulate him on finding spell checker!!!....lol. good to hear from ya again mate! *edit* sorry just found the WB thread!

I find it very entertaining how if and when a thread goes south on this forum it is usually on a Friday or Saturday night. Bruce, you and I have had several conversations by pm and on the phone and as an exciting time as it is waiting for your mill and yes you read and read and read, you need to leave the hat with the green horns on it on for a bit. I myself am a fourth generation sawmiller but i sure as s..t dont know everything. Thats the beauty of being a sawyer, its and endless learning journey. Yes I have gone back to being a chippy and am no longer a full time sawyer only because I have found a place and a job that makes me happy. You are not a journalist that can continually quote and unquote, you are for lack of better words an apprentice miller and logger, so try not to speek out loud too often, be a sponge sometimes and absorb. Then your learning journey will truly begin. I have posted this instead of calling you so it can be seen to all as a constructive criticism. For the record, I have had several Karri logs on my Woodmizer deck that weigh well over 3 tonne and to no ill effect to the machine.

1. The two main beams on the TIMBERKING saw bed are RHS and the walls of the RHS are 6mm thick.

2. The cross members on the TIMBERKING saw bed are RHS and the walls of the RHS are 4mm thick.

3. All the cross members are welded to the main beams, NOT BOLTED.

4. There are stainless steel "sleeves" that cover the top of the cross members, these rust proof sleeves are there to allow the log to turn with minimal resistance when using the log turner.

5. The "lugs" that are mentioned, one welded on the outside of the bed is there if you need to move the log lifting arm further down the chassis and the other two are on the inside of the chassis, they are there if an extra hydraulic dog is required. THEY ARE NOT THERE FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE,
and not for extra cross members.

6. RE "Threaded Jacks"
There are 7 "Bulldog" brand leveling jacks on the TIMBERKING saw they are there to level the saw (not for saw height) & support the mill along with the two wheels that are chocked with rubber aircraft wheel chocks.

Since 1994 TIMBERKING have been installing the "Bulldog" leveling jacks on their saws and to date have produced and sold between 3,500 & 4,000 "wheeled" mobile sawmills around the world, in that period there has not been one "Bulldog" jack that has had its thread stripped or failed.

These saws have been sold into the USA, South America, Pacific Islands,
Great Britain, Europe, New Zealand, South Africa and Australia which shows that there has been a good cross section of log species cut on the TIMBERKING saws.


Alan Rundell
Australian & New Zealand Timberking dealer.


Moderator - This post has been edited and only facts have been retained. Consider yourself warned Alan!