20th Nov 2011, 06:43 PM #1
Husky 3120 and Stihl 880 ,positives & negatives.
hey boys, looking at buying a Husky 3120 or Stihl 880 in December (purchasing in OZ) which i'll be using for CS milling ... If anyone owning or using/used either of these saws can give there opinions / professional feedback, that would be very much appreciated and noted ..."The positives & negatives of both saws" cheers
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20th Nov 2011, 08:58 PM #2
Both are good saws. Have used stihls for the majority of my 40+ years in the game with no regrets. From time to time I have used huskys without problems.Personally I prefer the stihl but I think this is only because I have become so used to it. I have never used a CS as a mill saw so my comments are limited to felling etc. To help overcome the blocking of the air cleaner we use a piece of stocking,
20th Nov 2011, 09:00 PM #3
I have a 3120 used for slabbing, havent used a 880 so can't really compare, the Husky does everything I want it to, bout the only hassle I've had with it is that when hot and go to restart can be reluctant to start, some sort of fuel vapour lock thing going on, doesn't happen all the time just sometimes
20th Nov 2011, 11:06 PM #4
- is rev limited to about 10k and has a fixed H jet. This means the H Jet cannot be adjusted without replacing the jet so if you want to do any muffler mods it has a limited tuning span and teh ject would need to be replaced if you move outside it's range.
- it has an outboard clutch which means changing sprockets is a bit of a PITA.
- It has front end chain tensioning which means the saw has to be removed from the mill to tension the chain unless a mod is made to the mill.
- it has up to 54 ml/min bar oil delivering although most of the excess oil is flung off the nose
- is rev limited to 12K and has a variable H jet.
- has an inboard clutch
- has side on chain tensioning
- only has 36 ml/min bar oil delivery.
The 3120 is supposed to have better filtration but I didn't experience that when I used it even though I was cutting dry logs.
Both are strong saws but don't cut much faster in small wood unless the rakers are seriously dropped. They really shine in wide cuts where other saws just stop.
21st Nov 2011, 01:29 PM #5
21st Nov 2011, 01:51 PM #6
Im guessing the Oil flow on the husky could be a better choice (got a manual oiler too i believe) your saying the excess only gets flung of the tip on the 3120? Im guessing the 880 would be flinging oil too... which would mean the 880 gets even less oil on the underside of the bar ?
I do like the 880 for the tuning of the H !! running rich in a milling situation is a must ,also meaning there can be a muffler mod to dissipate more internal heat .and the rev limits don't really come into play in a milling situation.. under load they shouldnt be hitting there limits .if its gonna be a race saw there is always mods available for both saws ..cheers mate
Both saws are great fun to use and very reliable.
21st Nov 2011, 02:40 PM #7
21st Nov 2011, 03:57 PM #8
Your suggestion about the oily sock could be ok. The good thing with the stocking is that its slippery and dry. Therefore it sheds dust well. I think the oily sock would tend to foul the stocking with oil and defeat its purpose. I find one layer of good quality fine mesh stocking makes a hell of a difference. I cut a lot of dry ironbark, greygum, greybox and turpentine. The ironbark puts up a fine dust, particularly with a dulling blade. I can understand that prolonged milling could create a lot of fine dust, but I'd be surprised if fine stocking didn't help and you could always fold it back to form two layers/
21st Nov 2011, 04:33 PM #9
21st Nov 2011, 04:50 PM #10
... seems to me the more oil the better in all conditions, if big blobs are dripping of the tip, then there seems to me more oil for the chain to ride threw, proving more oil all around .. there can never be enough oil in my opinion ..
.the manual oiler might be PITA but it gets more oil to the bar (the manual oiler I miss on newer saws !!) the 090 ,076 etc flings a heap of oil from the tip ...making the chain always well lubed
The reason why older saws (like the 076) needed a manual oiler is because of the miserable (19 ml/min for the 076) delivery rate that these saw output, but actually using a manual oiler for 20 minutes while cutting a big slab has knobs on it. The other thing about using the manual oiler is it requires the operators hand to be in a very awkward spot on the wrap handle while milling. This is why I gave up using it on my 076. A remote throttle to get the CS miller standing upright while milling is miles more comfortable. It is much easier to forget the manual oiler and saws with too lo-hi oil delivery rates and run an aux oiler so the oil gets to where its needed.
21st Nov 2011, 05:42 PM #11
21st Nov 2011, 06:13 PM #12
I like your set up bob!!!
This was my first mill:
I still have this and now use it with a 441 and a 25" bar on small logs.
For more details check out POst#66 in this thread
Here is a milling setup for tackling short logs that uses the small CSM above;
details see: http://www.woodworkforums.com/f44/ch...rt-logs-46980/
This is my mini/beam-mill:
I use this with a 441 to break up big slabs.
Details sareee; http://www.woodworkforums.com/f132/f...ni-mill-93821/
This is my latest:
Details are at http://www.woodworkforums.com/f132/b...s-mill-126320/
21st Nov 2011, 06:29 PM #13
21st Nov 2011, 06:37 PM #14
Under normal operating conditions the 880 is a higher revving saw so when correctly handled and set up it out-cuts the 076 all the way through the log size range. I can make the 076 cut as fast as the 880 on smaller logs by dropping the rakers but then it would struggle on bigger wood with the same chain. The 076 is very reliable though and has not missed a beat. When the 880 is flooded it is a pig to clear where as the 076 is up and running in no time.
21st Nov 2011, 07:35 PM #15
i have cooked (melted) the cylinder on my 3120 and 2 x 575XP husky saws splitting posts, never cooked a stihl.
i feel they just rev to high to the extended constant use.
i will never buy a husky again.
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