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    Default Powered Lucas Mill Winders

    With not getting any younger and also having too much time on my hands during all this rain, I've been giving a bit of thought to adding power to the winders on the mill.....

    Dunno how well this will come out, but here's a vid...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7__j80FG5ik"]Lucas Mill Electric Winders mk I - YouTube[/ame]

    No acting style from Al there and the dog just had to get involved in the action didnt she lol. Mill had the carriage on the tracks at the time too
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    Works good doesnt it? Did mine about 5 years ago after smashing an elbow and having a metal one fitted. A lot easier than cranking them there handles.

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    Ya got some pics of what u did?
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    No, I dont. It was a rush job at the time as we were heading bush for a long stint. I did the caravan awning winders at the same time.

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    got electric on mine only way to go fast accurate wont use anything else

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    girls.

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    So has anyone got any pics/etc been talkin bout it on here for ages and no-one else has put anything up.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
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    statment

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    Carl

    That's just a little bit reminiscent of this

    Redneck Power Window Winder - Video



    Having said that, I wonder whether you could adapt electric window motors from a car to drive your mill winders. They are reversible and power comes from 12V DC.

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    Paul my only concern about the electric window winders is I had the drill on highest torque setting and it just managed to move the carraige up, when it was parked at one end.More work needs to vbe done on them and Dudley is goin to have a look in a few weeks, I'm confident he can come up with something....
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    would recommend either an electric actuator of the type LINAK use in hospital beds or else you would need a servo type electrical motor which can be basically wound to any degree of rotation you need and a cable spool. the only problem with an actuator would be the distance of travel I.E. you would have absolutely accurate control over maybe 450mm max and would then have to wind the whole lot down and start again. but a servo type motor with a brake you could wind up or down as long as the spool holding your cable would allow it the only problem would be the revolutions of the motor would change as per distance travelled as the spool filled up. the other option would be to basically use a chain and a servo motor which runs the length of the lift and lower but you are then relying on the sprocket holding in the chain which may pose issues in a vertical situation. It may be fine however. this would envolve 3 sprockets 1 at the top 1 at the bottom and 1 on the motor the chain would be attached at both ends near the motor case. the motor would then need to move with the carriage and only the upper and lower sprockets would remain in situ. this would work fairly well I think.
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    I guess you could always add a servo motor to the existing winder setup too, and a worm drive setup would increase the accuracy, and reduce the power requirements to drive it.
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    i would just use a 12 volt moror and gear it down with chain and cod onto where the handle goes, use the existing clutch setup to hold it still.

    i might make it up when i get my mill home. hope its ok out there in the cold on its own.

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    you would need a servo type stepper motor to have control weissy
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