Thread: short big logs?

yeah I suppose if there are handfuls of mills all cutting step treads the price might come down a bit and ya won't be able to get $2105 per cube for sawn stuff - damn I shouldn't have told you buggers should have known you'd just go and blab it to the world?

Carl make sure you do some pics and post for us with timber envy

should be getting them tomorow arvo.

my mill is stuck on a job. i took a load of timber out at lunchtime on tuesday and when i tried to get back the builders had a skip bin on teh only access road. suposed to be gone on wednesday lunchtime but its still there adn wont be gone before munday.

now im getting off

With these stair treads having to be double cut, am I correct in my assumption that you would be lucky to get 20 out of a 1m diameter log by double cutting? You guys with slabbers would be better cutting into short slabs then resawing to 250mm, then you would get heaps more.

slabing would leave to rougher finish.

double cutting 1m logs you would get about 18 step treads adna heap of other stuff.

Originally Posted by weisyboy

slabing would leave to rougher finish.

Use full complement chain, reduce the top plate angle on the cutters to 5º and take it steady to eliminate washboard and it will be more than acceptable.

it might be more economical to just cut teh treads and cut the rest for bowl blanks or sompthing.

what size are timber stringers?

If you cut slabs they can be resawn into anything so you have a much wider market potential

Originally Posted by Burnsy

With these stair treads having to be double cut, am I correct in my assumption that you would be lucky to get 20 out of a 1m diameter log by double cutting? You guys with slabbers would be better cutting into short slabs then resawing to 250mm, then you would get heaps more.

Mike I was basing previous calculations on a 1m dia. 1.5m long log and lineal metres of step tread so I reckon you could get out at least 30 lineal metres of tread to make the log worth $600.

But theoretically there are 23 layers of 43mm in 1m. A 1m log gets fat quick, so 1 38mm layer needed on top before you should be wide enough for step treads. This allows for more than 3" thick left as a bottom flitch with 20 layers of 38mm boards - in theory... or if you take out 20 layers that leaves 5" to have as waste top and bottom - in theory...

With a slabbing bar each layer would need to be 50mm so in 1m dia only 20 layers, but first and last won't be wide enough for treads so definitely not 20 layers out of a 1m log - in theory...

As we all know, most times cutting logs doesn't work out like theory though as mother nature has a hand in it and the log has voids or bug holes, bark inclusions all that stuff

Hey Carl, just cut 'em and show us the pics

Hmmmm bluegum steps, hmmm, i would be interested in them down the track a bit Carl. Looking forward to the pics.

Donna

Originally Posted by Sigidi

Hey Carl, just cut 'em and show us the pics

Well I had a short, big log today. Not 1m dia, but still big enough to mill... she was 615mm dia so that's a 0.45 log cube


a bit on the short side it was only 1.5m long,


and I came up with another use for these SBL's...


Retaining wall posts - mine are 6x3, but for those that want/can an 8x3 is easy enough. (I squeezed out 19 of the 6x3's so around 70% recovery) More often than not a retaining wall can only go 1m high without engineers being involved, so your posts only need to be a maximum of 1.6m normally the wall builder would have to buy a 2.4 and lose a chunk or buy a 3.0 and get two 1.5's.

1.5's are okay for me on this wall as I'm only going 900 high so I still will have 600 in ground.

Oh and I scored a nice surprise from this SBL as well as my haul of posts...


Coffee table slab (1.5 long, 500 wide and 50 thick)

well i got some of teh smaller ones home this morning.



thebig ones were to heavy to lift with the loader i broke the quick hitch bucket bit. both about 1m diamiter and about 1.2 long.



and a nice fork. about the same diamiter but about 2.2m long.



this si what most of the tree ended up like. blocks about .5m long



there is also about 20 cube of slash pine if i want to take it.

can't do very much with half a metre - bugger!!

Originally Posted by Sigidi

Retaining wall posts - mine are 6x3, but for those that want/can an 8x3 is easy enough. (I squeezed out 19 of the 6x3's so around 70% recovery) More often than not a retaining wall can only go 1m high without engineers being involved, so your posts only need to be a maximum of 1.6m normally the wall builder would have to buy a 2.4 and lose a chunk or buy a 3.0 and get two 1.5's.

1.5's are okay for me on this wall as I'm only going 900 high so I still will have 600 in ground.

boy oh boy what a waste of good timber, they would made great stair treads.

In Sydney you would be paying a good $75plm for 250x50 dry skip dressed blue gum even short lengths