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    Quote Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN View Post
    Some folk are sensitive to opioids...some to nsaids and likewise steroids.
    There is NO 'one size fits all'
    I presently take 60mg oxycodone . . . .
    When I crushed 3 fingers on my left hand in a goods lift door at work I ended up at hospital emergency where they gave me a painkiller by injection. 8 hours later once they X-rayed, set and sprinted the fingers they sent me home with 12 oxycodone tabs with instructions to start taking them once I could feel my damaged fingers. About 4 hours later I took one tab and besides thinking I was being attacked by monsters, I found I could hardly stand up and almost toppled over a balcony balustrade.

    I treated the pain with cold packs and flannel pouches filled with ice - this went on for 3 days and by then the pain was just a dull ache. Obviously not a long or even short term remedy for a bung back or chronic pain but I was still amazed how well the ice worked.

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    I spend most of my days with icepacks on my arms, can't live without themas the pain is more than I'm willing to put up with.

    Funny thing about these opiate derived meds, they affect everyone differently, I seem to be largely immune to them, I take the max dose plus a little more on occasions and they have no effect at all, other than taking the edge off. I have taken two Oxycodone, Tramadol Tapantadol together with no side effects at all.

    My wife took a half strength QA Tramadol and collapsed hitting her head on the bench and knocking herself out. Needless to say, she refuses to take them now. Then again she won't drink coffee or tea or eat chocolate after 4 o'clock because she won't sleep that night. I have been known to eat a family size block of chocolate and drink two cups of coffee in bed and then just dozed off. Yes, I am glutenous pig!

    For the last 3-4 days I've had more pain than usual in my forearms, so much so my days are spent with arms in either splints or ice packs. Two days ago I had a steroid injection into my elbows, two days before that both wrists and thumbs, I'm wondering if this has caused the forearm pain, for the last two days I haven;y been able to move my fingers for the pain.

    Now here's a good one on pain, and what doesn't necessarily hurt. Many years ago a cousin caught his finger between a large beam and the back of a truck, the finger came off at the first joint, I was working with him at the time and remember the pain he was in. About a week later I also lost my finger at the same joint on a bending machine. I was wearing gloves at the time and as I felt no pain kept working. five minutes later my hand felt a little wet so I removed the glove and found my hand was minus half a finger. I retrieved the finger and drove to the local GP for treatment. They sent me off to the hospital and there I sat for around six hours whereupon the Doc re-attached the errant finger that night, I felt absolutely nothing and lay in the hospital all day, no pain meds and no pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacc51 View Post
    Yep, that's pretty old news, Celebrex was taken off the market a while back for that reason. Matter of whether you want pain or a exit. I'd rather take the exit than suffer the pain that comes without the Celebrex. Priorities I guess!
    This may or may not be of any interest, but in case you haven't seen it:

    14/11/2016 Surprise, Arthritis drug Celebrex shown to be as safe as Ibuprofen and Naproxen

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    I was on Celebrex when it was withdrawn and have only just returned to using it on my GPs advice, he saying it was safe enough. Unfortunately all meds have side effects, some more serious than others, the trick is to weigh up those side effect risks against the potential good the meds can do.

    Personally I'd rather be free of some of the pain and die two years later than be racked with pain and live for 20.

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    I have no idea as to what PsA is but I guess it is a form of Arthritis?

    Sorry to hear of all the pain and suffering and the apparent uselessness of the medical teatments.

    Just wondering if any of you have thought of stem cell therapy??

    My wife has had stem cell therapy on both knees because of OA and it has worked a treat.

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    PsA is psoriatic arthritis, I have the mutilans strain which is, apparently, the most serious and disfiguring. Can't say as I've noticed the disfiguring though, I was considered ugly before I came down with PsA anyway. Just another form of RA really.

    I have thought of stem cell; unfortunately, PsA destroys your joints, so assuming stem cells were to work I would think it wouldn't do you much good in a joint that is already being destroyed by PsA anyway.

    OA is quite different from RA/PsA, OA is brought about by overuse/damage to joints, whereas RA/PsA is an autoimmune disease where the body gets a little confused and starts attacking itself. The medical fraternity are a long way from understanding RA/PsA, they still have not found a cause nor a cure.

    The problem with stem cells is finding a Dr who thinks it worthwhile, Doctors don't like straying from typical treatments so finding a Doc willing to give it a go would be difficult.

    I read of an RA case who tried FMT (Faecal Matter Transplant), his RA was stopped in it's tracks, when I mentioned it to my Rheumatologist he said 'are you serious' and laughed.

    FMT works on the principle of replacing bad gut bacteria with good. It is thought that gut bacteria plays a part in autoimmune diseases, so what could it hurt? aside from the Docs sensibilities.

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    I am sorry to hear about your dilemma with this insidious problem. My dad had Paget's disease which is a bit of an orphan thing and it caused joint issues because the bones grew but did not wear away as in normal people and in the extreme versions causes deformity of the limbs if I have got that right. He went undiagnosed for a long time until a clever GP finally worked it out.
    CHRIS

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