Thread: Turmeric and Inflamation

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Originally Posted by sacc51

I posted yesterday 'Turmeric and Inflammation' and my experience with same in Health Issues. I received a like notificaton from someone and then the post disappeared. A search using 'Turmeric and Inflamation' revealed zip. So, either admins removed it or there is a problem with the site. Very Interesting.

Not Admin, not the site, you deleted it!

Turmeric and inflamation

Started by sacc51, 15th Jun 2016 05:20 PM

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The inflammation's gorne then

I responded to the first thread
But is gone now !!

Originally Posted by Bedford

Not Admin, not the site, you deleted it!

Sounds like it was a very inflammatory post.

Its interesting. My wifes neurologist was talking to her about this only last month.

It is being researched for certain brain tumours.

I'd encourage you to do a bit of your own research on the Turmeric thing. The active anti-inflammatory ingredient in Turmeric is curcumin. While curcumin does appear to be an anti-inflammatory the problem is to get curcumin levels in your blood serum up to levels where they are detectable let alone of benefit would require you to eat a fair bit of turmeric.....I've seen minimum figures of 100grams mentioned. High doses of turmeric can also have side effects in some people.

Curcumin has poor bioavailability (poor absorption and rapid elimination) on it's own; however, when taken with piperine (black pepper) it's bioavailabilty increases by 2000%. Bromelain (pineapple core) also increases it's effectiveness. Turmeric does have side effects in high doses, that's probably why there is a dosage indicated on the container; however, curcumen has been proven safe at levels many times higher than the suggested dose. Funnily enough, I can't think of a single medication that doesn't have side effects when taken in high doses, most have side effects even at low doses, those side effects being far more serious than those of turmeric. I take the max dose of 1500mgs per day and it does cause a slight nauseousness on occasion but nowhere near as bad as the the other medications I take. No other side effects are evident, wish I could say the same for the other meds I take. Make no mistake turmeric is no cure but in studies it's efficacy has been proven as better than ibuprofen in relation to arthritic pain. I would argue that point as ibuprofen certainly gives me greater relief; unfortunately, ibuprofen makes me quite ill and is not recommended in concert with the other meds I take whereas, turmeric doesn't make me ill and can be taken with other meds so I take turmeric daily and ibuprofen only when in dire need. I still cannot use my hands for much of anything anymore but the pain when doing so and after the fact is lessened to some degree. Bottom line, everyone is different, what works for some may not necessarily work for another. Turmeric has been used for centuries by societies that report lesser incidences of those ailments that plague societies that don't use it. On the other hand drugs such as Prednisone, methotrexate, sulfasalazine, hydroxychloriquine, leflunomide, and so on have well known positive effects and a very real place in the treatment of RA and other ailments; well, their medical names speak volumes!
On a lighter note, turmeric with pepper is vile in anything but a curry and strangely enough, yogurt. Some have reported mixing it in hot water and drinking it - very sick individuals who can stomach that! Take my advice: if you don't eat/like curries and/or yogurt at least twice daily take it in capsule form - you have been warned!

Thanks for the yoghurt tip.

People with severe issues will try anything - my poor wife is one such one. A big grade 2 brain tumour, rare (6 people in Oz) and essentially untreatable... we've done an experimental chemo that has worked exceedingly well, but it's not a cure. We consult with her neuro (and 3 others who "study" my wife) and there is considerable talk about chilli, cannabis and curcumin. He has encouraged her to take large doses of the later.

We keep accurate records and report everything at 3 monthly intervals as well as an MRI and bloods. He, like us, is not interested in witchcraft, but science. Its very interesting (more so, for we have made it to 14 years and the usual is 3 - max).

I suppose being "interesting" gives us the privilege of over-servicing. The science guys go nuts with my detailed records

Don't read anything more into this other than there is growing support for curcumin and the study of it. Real scientists, at least in our small exposure to them, have very considerable interest in this plant.

My wife grows & uses fresh turmeric, she makes a tea with sliced turmeric & sliced ginger.

She used the tea all through her chemo 3 years ago & didn't get any of the mouth ulcers that she was warned she would/could get.

Your wife must have a cast iron gut, Cliff, I can't stomach the stuff. I should add to my previous post, I am very much a sceptic when talking about alternative treatments simply because I've found all I've tried to be absolute nonsense, except perhaps for turmeric. It appears to be working with some success at the moment so I'll keep using. I will jump on the medicinal cannabis wagon if/when it becomes available, like turmeric there is simply too much anecdotal evidence as to it's success to ignore and like WoodPixel says 'People with severe issues will try anything' - life becomes very difficult without the use of your hands/arms

Turmeric did work for me - for a short period and helped me taper the prednisone; unfortunately, it was short lived so I have discontinued it's use. I also tried medicinal canabis - zip, zilch, nothing! Bugger!

A subject dear to my heart. Other good plant derived antiinflammatories include:

1) Aloe vera gel. If buying make sure you get the brown stuff, the decolorized product is a mixture of water, malic acid and various salts - completely useless. It'll give you loose stools.

2) Rieshi/Ganoderma lucidum. The best part is the so-called pore-powder. Rich in ganoderic acid and related triterpenoid antiinflammatory agents. Traditional Chinese medicine and pain reliever.

3) Licorice root. Glycyrrhetinic acid is a well known and potent antiinflammatory.

4) Epigallocatechin-3-gallate or EGCG. Present in green tea EGCG is one that benefits from concentration, it's hard to get a lot from your drink.

Other things you may consider.

N-acetyl cysteine. Detoxicant precursor to glutathione, one of your bodies natural detoxifying agents. Use with care if you are on other meds.

Glutathione is also available.

Indole-3-carbinol. The original broccoli molecule. Diindolyl methane is a metabolite.

As with anything, be sure to consult with your physician before using these agents as many are quite potent and can alter the activity of other meds you may be taking.

Medicinal cannabis should work quite effectively. It's got a long history of pain relief due to its cannaboids and is often used effectively without the THC. Marinol is a pharmaceutical drug made from cannabis without the THC.
Here in Canada it's legal for medical use . I have such a card so I use when I feel it's needed and have no problems with it. If other people do I don't really care.

Turmeric is an important medicinal and culinary herb in India and Asia. It has powerful anti inflammatory properties due to its high curcumin content.
Curcumin is as effective as some NSAID's for treating acute inflammation but without the negative side effects.

Curcumin reduces inflammation by inhibiting production of cyclooxygenase 2 ( COX-2)
lipoxygenase (LOX) and inducible nitric oxide synthase (NOS) which are important enzymes that mediate inflammatory processes.

Curcumin has also been known to enhance tissue repair & wound healing. It provides district advantages over NSAID's in that it does not do damage to the stomach linng which is always the case with NSAID's. This is crucial information for those especially with auto immune decease since most people with these types of illnesses already have a compromised stomach lining due to a leaky gut.

There are definitely many many substances with anti inflammatory properties.

I take lots of anti inflammatory substances because I have auto immune disease but one of the best so far is something I found at my local Costco. Gotta LOVE that store. It's called:

Osteo Joint Ease and it's by Webber Naturals
IT WORKS and works WELL.

And of course it has turmeric in it.

References: I'm a nutritionist by trade with a degreeimage.jpg