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27th July 2016, 07:37 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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That is a hard thing to quantify but I never sit around watching tv etc and I conversely do not exercise as a dedicated activity. On the other had I spent some months working in a manual job doing some construction a short time ago and my weight did not vary even though my activity level rose markedly. I doubt we are anywhere near a final answer to all the questions surrounding weight gain and loss, witness some of the findings and research that has come to light in the last year or so.
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27th July 2016, 08:06 PM #17Skwair2rownd
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Chris I think you really need to read the work by Noakes and take in what it says.
For years I read labels for fat content - especially after a double bypass and later a stent - although the stent was fora congenital condition.
I followed a regime of high carbohydrates and steadily gained weight.
A friend of ours put Ana onto this way of eating. I was horrified at first because I HATE fat I had always cut it from everything but after meeting
up with a friend I hadn't seen for 3 months and not recognizing him, I asked what he had done. He had been to a doctor who put him on the Noakes
plan. Result was a 30 kg. weight loss, almost normal cholesterol levels, a return to normal blood pressure and the cessation of diabetes type 2 medication.
That was enough to finally convince me!! My cardiologist has a daughter who is a dietician and she is implacably opposed to the regime, steadfastly maintaining
that it is unsustainable. Mind you her father had given me the go ahead to at least try this!!. The trouble with dieticians is that they are duty bound to stick to
the old dogma otherwise they can be refused registration.
It is interesting to note, however, the number of health professionals who are coming around to the Noakes view or a version thereof.
Sometimes I only eat two meals a day, as does Ana. Hunger is not a problem. It only took me almost two weeks to adjust to the regime and since then it has been plain sailing.
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27th July 2016, 08:23 PM #18Hewer of wood
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27th July 2016, 08:50 PM #20
Chris, what I responded to was your comment re the "genetic" weight. I think there is more to weight and weight loss than genetics.
I also don't believe in the fad diets that are around these days. One of my daughters has a tendency to put on weight, she also blames this on genetics. However neither I or her mother is or has been overweight at any stage.
The daughter a little while went on the "paleo" diet and lost a fair bit of weight and looked good.
When she went back to her "normal" way of eating she put it all back on again, and some more.
My wife and I are by no means on a dieting regime, never have been, but we do everything in moderation. As soon as we see that we are a few kilos over our "normal" weight, eg after the Christmas period, we cut down on all non-essentials, such as biscuits and alcohol.
We have done this most of our life and we believe that, as with most other things in life, prevention is better than cure
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27th July 2016, 09:29 PM #21GOLD MEMBER
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This about sums me up also, in fact I have been accused of not eating enough during conversations of this type. Oh well, back to the grindstone and renovating the sewing room for Mrs P. It is interesting seeing the different POV's and the reactions of others to those views.
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27th July 2016, 10:19 PM #22Skwair2rownd
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Noe eating enough might well be your problem Chris. The body will go into starvation mode after a ceratin point and hold onto body reserves.
A friend of ours had to lose weight for an umpteenth operation and was put on a 400 cal a day diet. Lost for a short while and then the body said "no More"
Tokk a change of tack by eating more fat to get where he needed to be. Did this against dietician's advice!! Got the result wanted.
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28th July 2016, 11:58 AM #23SENIOR MEMBER
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I've been a chronic exerciser all my life until about 12 months ago, dabbling in bodybuilding for a lot of those years. Although I was overweight due to very high musculature I was never fat. When I retired at 50 I gave up heavy weights and concentrated on cycling, walking, canoeing as well as light weights, I lost a bit of weight but managed to retain most of the muscle but again was never fat. Twelve months ago I came down with chronic RA and am now unable to do much of anything, exercising being totally out of the question. I started losing muscle, fat gaining a good (belly) foothold although my weight remained pretty static. I read widely on nutrition and diets and tried many diets including the Paleo diet but they simply didn't suit me, I just find it impossible (unpalatable if you like) to stick to a diet which cuts out foods I enjoy and includes foods I hate. Simply cutting back on food also didn't work for me so I tried the 5/2 diet and I lost 10kgs in a matter of a few weeks. Ten kgs might not sound a lot but when you consider I dropped from 85kgs to 75kgs it adds a little perspective. When I got to my target weight (75kgs) I resumed my normal diet but never regained the weight. Every now and again I return to the 5/2 diet but I'm not that strict about it and my weight never creeps above the 76kg mark. I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with the Paleo or Noakes diet, in fact it makes a lot of sense for diabetics like myself, it’s simply horses for courses.
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