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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbunny View Post
    ps can you believe it I turned the picture upside down this time thinking it would turn up the right way up, but no it did not happen, I give up.
    here you go
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    It's time for an update I think as the house has progressed somewhat. Just been roofed and now putting in the windows. The electrical system is on a first fit and the cladding is on its way to Australia. I've been talking to the solar guys for the power system and got the solar hot water system on the roof on the other side of the roof. We hope to have most plumbing by Xmas and maybe in by Easter fingers crossed.

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    I'm Bloody Jealous,

    I love Tasmania, it's an amazing place with awesome people, i could live there in a heartbeat, if my wife would let me.

    The house is looking good, its coming together, you're on the home stretch with the roof on.

    I did the start of my Cabinetmaking Trade in Caboolture, back in the mid 90's... that area has changed a fair bit, must be a nice change down were you are now.

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    We started the sandstone and slate cladding just before Xmas and now starting to make progress up the wall but a long way to go yet. All best of the season to you all.

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    Any chance of a close up photo of how the sandstone is fixed with the metal clips please
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwbuild View Post
    Any chance of a close up photo of how the sandstone is fixed with the metal clips please
    Made good progress this week and about a third completed all around. The hold up is cutting around the windows and putting in sills. rebuild, one photo shows the clips and joiners, I don't want to look like I'm promoting this cladding product as they have asked me to be a technical rep for them after I've completed my installation. It's quite new to Australia and no one has done their own cladding installation yet so basically I'll be the most experienced with this cladding product. Anyhow, this build thread is about my house build and not the cladding product but I'm happy to show what I've chosen to put on my new house build.

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    Can I ask about the sandstone cladding? What is the substrate? how does it mount at floor level? The product looks as though it interlocks with itself, do the joints get sealed up? Looks great by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUON View Post
    And for those folk who prefer to produce most of their own power but would for one reason or another prefer to remain on the grid, and are dictated to by the various power companies about how much power they can feed back into the grid (of which I think is an obscenity) would a class action be out of the question?
    My brother manages an electrical grid system and says they don't want our power. We feed in during the day when the demand is low and then don't feed in when the sun goes down and demand goes up.

    I see his point. Why buy it from us when they don't need it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Can I ask about the sandstone cladding? What is the substrate? how does it mount at floor level? The product looks as though it interlocks with itself, do the joints get sealed up? Looks great by the way!
    Well hard day's work but my wife and I are getting to the end of the main building now with one of the two last gables completed. This is easy, it's the going up and down the scaffolding and cutting in that takes time and effort. The scaffolding is costing $400/week and its been two months up now (how come it's more expensive for scaffolding per week than I can rent a house with furniture for less in Launceston for my wife and I). I'd say a couple more weeks and it can come down I hope. In my next post I hope to show the evacuated tubes and thermosiphon hot water system to the wood burner and if your lucky maybe the frames for the solar panels that will power us off grid.

    Cal, I'm happy to answer your questions but I don't want to be seen to promote a product that I have some connection with in that SmartStone have asked me to be there technical advisor for Tasmania as I'm the only one that has done their own installation. So that declared, it is sandstone bonded to a polystyrene backing but it is not just plane polystyrene. The stone, and it comes in many choices, is about 8-12mm thick. You can see how it all goes together in their videos on their web page. It is ment to be for owner builders as well as builders to give the look and feel of real stone without the waste of a complete block of stone at an affordable price. It has an R2.5 insulation rating and is about 65-80mm thick. With batts in the framework you end up with an R insulation rating of over 6. To start the wall fit up, a special starting angle strip with built in weep holes is used. It is bonded with silicon sealant between the blocks with clips and joiners to the studs of the building framework. I am an owner builder and have never done this type of work before, so it's straight forward as far as I can see. They put the product together based on your house plans with all you need to complete the job. This is a relatively new product to Australia but is being used in the US now. I think it is now best if you go to their web site and watch the videos.

    Now, sorry for the product promotion, I will attempt not to promote the cladding any further as this thread is about my rural block and what I'm doing in Tasmania. Secondly, I had started this blog long before I had any idea of what cladding I was going to use and no expectation of being asked to consult from time to time with other buyers of the cladding.

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    SB
    this is not about the sandstone cladding per see, but the building itself.

    around here, a frame like yours would be sheeted with OSB, covered with a vinyl wrap and then have the cladding attached.
    wall insulation -- possibly ridgid PVC foam -- would be installed between the OSB and internal plaster board.

    for your house, how is the insulation and waterproofing membranes arranged?



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    if you were to go over the cladding with a scrabbling hammer, people would want to heritage list your place.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Thanks for the info (without promoting it) love the build, looks fantastic!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    SB
    this is not about the sandstone cladding per see, but the building itself.

    around here, a frame like yours would be sheeted with OSB, covered with a vinyl wrap and then have the cladding attached.
    wall insulation -- possibly ridgid PVC foam -- would be installed between the OSB and internal plaster board.

    for your house, how is the insulation and waterproofing membranes arranged?



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    if you were to go over the cladding with a scrabbling hammer, people would want to heritage list your place.
    Ian, over here the usual methods of build is internal jiprock (plaster board), timber frame with batts followed by a breathable insulation wrap and finally an external cladding of your choosing which could be any weatherproof material that meets the Building Code of Australia (BCA). Many houses are also built from concrete blocks, double brick, but the timber frame construction is the most common. Ridged PVC foam is not that common and OSB is used only where bracing of the frame is required. I'm sure other methods can and are used but they must comply with the BCA standards. Anything can be used if if it meets the BCA as a minimum and some materials are deemed as meeting the standards where others may require evidence or engineer certified as meeting the standard, and they can be different from state to state to accommodate different weather and vermin conditions such as termite treatment is not required in Tasmania but is compulsory in other states. Here we don't have the cold like Canada hence no requirement for double glazing windows but we have a Bush Fire Attack level as we can have horrific bush fires that do often turn deadly. Hope this helps you understand the differences between Canada and Australia.
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    Thanks SB
    I asked because although you commented

    [the stone cladding] has an R2.5 insulation rating and is about 65-80mm thick. With batts in the framework you end up with an R insulation rating of over 6.
    but compared to local building codes, your new house will leak heat like a sieve.

    but then again, it's -23 outside today at 1:00PM, which is a mite cooler than Tassie will ever get.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Regarding the photos not uploading in the correct orientation, I suspect it has something to do with Auto Rotation. Turn this off or maybe just take pictures with the I Thingy held in its normal orientation. Personally I think it looks wacky seeing someone taking a picture with one of those. Why people don't just buy a real camera escapes me. I have a refurbished 16M Kodak compact that would beat the pants off any I-Thing and it cost me $64. I also have a 24M DSLR, but that is another thing entirely.

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    Well here we are again, the scaffolding comes down tomorrow, thank the leprechauns. As I said here is my evacuated tube hot water system and it's working very well indeed. I have had it up a week now and after 1 day up with cloud it was hot with some 300lt to heat up. After 2 days it was hot to burn you no problems, glad that the bathroom water supply system had a tempering valve on it to bring the temperature down to about 50 degrees. The pipes on the right go down to the wood burner to help heat water in winter through the thermosiphon action. Remember, you don't get the water that is heated in the tank, you get the water that goes through 35m of copper pipe that runs through the hot water in the tank that heats up as it runs to your taps. No electricity, no gass, all just sunlight and a pump at the water tank 30m away. Except for the pluming to the house system it's an easy job to put up your self and install the tubes, about half a day. I could of done the house system myself but being a new build the pluming has to be signed off by the plumber and council.

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