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3rd September 2011, 06:34 PM #1Intermediate Member
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External French Doors
Hi guys.
I am comtemplating making some french doors to replace the rotting ones on the side of my mother in law's granny flat, hopefully before the glass panel falls out.
They are on the south face of the house, rarely see any sun and are exposed to the wind and rain which is prevalent on that side.
These ones are painted. Depending on my timber choice, I will paint or clear finish them.
Could you guy please advise a good timber to use? I do have a budget and they don't need to last a hundred years, either. I was thinking about putting a sliding glass door in, but it is a bit expensive, not to mention the amount of work I'd have to do to make them fit. No, a new custom size job is not an option. Way too expensive.
Thanks
Les
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4th September 2011, 12:53 AM #2
I suggest Australian Red Cedar
Also, I've looked into doing ssomething similar and the nearest French door router bit I can find is this one from Lee Valley Reversible French Door & Window Sash Bit - Lee Valley Toolsregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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4th September 2011, 09:08 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Thanks Ian. Being the noted tight ass that I am (as well as wanting to employ my potential hand skills - lol) I'll try the M & T joints by hand.
They are are relatively simple door with a single glass panel in a simple rebate. This tempts me to have a shot.
Where in Brissy is Western Red available - southside?
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4th September 2011, 11:17 PM #4
Les
that bit I linked to is not designed to make stick and cope M&Ts.
It's intended to make the glazing profile used on a typical French door.
If it's a simple door you need, you may find it difficult to beat the cost of a standard pre-made door like this one
I've looked into making a new door for my place and, fior standard sizes, the wood would cost me almost as much as a manufactured door
to which I'd need to add the glazingregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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5th September 2011, 11:38 AM #5
Western Red Cedar would be fine, but I would have thought Aus Red Cedar was not suitable for outside uses, it rots too easily. Plenty of Ausy hardwoods would be Ok though if you want to use an Ausy timber
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5th September 2011, 07:19 PM #6Intermediate Member
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5th September 2011, 07:24 PM #7Intermediate Member
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I was thinking about using Tassie oak, but I notice some guys saying it's not too good outdoors?
Having said that, it would be painted or clear finished depending how it turns out. It may be an ambitious project for me, but I would like to try.
We originally got them second hand about 20 years ago, but they have come to the end of their life.
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5th September 2011, 09:17 PM #8I DO STUFF......EVENTUALLY!
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Have you looked new guinie rosewood? A lot of cabinet makers use it. Easy to get, pretty low cost, easy to work.
Just a choice)
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5th September 2011, 10:09 PM #9
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5th September 2011, 10:27 PM #10Intermediate Member
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The glass is only held in with like 1/4" sq timber strips. I have cut silicone embedded windows a few times so do have some skills there. The glass is 6mm thick and should be reasonably easily handled.
Had lots of experience fixing broken windows. I had broken 13 of them by the time I was 7. Dad was getting a bit peeved by now, and started making me do the dirty work. Got good at it too. Still love the smell of fresh putty.
Anyway, with a budget in mind, it's worth a try and to learn some new skills. The router and a chisel should handle the glass rebates fine.
Hadn't thought about New Guinea Rosewood. I only mentioned Tassie oak as it seems fairly hard and readily available.
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6th September 2011, 12:15 AM #11
From the Australian Timber Buyers Guide
New Guinea Rosewood -- heartwood classed as durable, sapwood susceptable to attack by Lyctus borer
Western Red Cedar -- heartwood is one of the most durable of all teh commercial softwoods
Tassie Oak -- heartwood is moderately durable, sapwood susceptable to attack by Lyctus borer
Australian Red Cedar -- heartwood is moderately durable, sapwood susceptable to Lyctus borer attack
King William Pine -- heartwood is very durable
Meranti -- Light Red Meranti is clssed as non- or moderately durable, it is susceptable to attack by Lyctus borer. Dark Red Meranti is classed as durable. However, I don't know how to tell them apart.regards from Alberta, Canada
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6th September 2011, 07:37 PM #12Intermediate Member
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Thanks Ian and everyone else for your input.
Will have to think and make some decisions now.
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9th September 2011, 08:20 AM #13Intermediate Member
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I have lots of french doors and old windows in my house that I have restored and clear finished. Australian red cedar is hopeless as it loses its colour within 12 months. Silky oak is great. There is a demonlition yard at tweed call Red Neds, they have sets of french doors for under $200 in most sizes. They are well worth a look.
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