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Thread: Flexing & Creaking floor
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31st March 2009, 09:12 AM #1Novice
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Flexing & Creaking floor
Hi guys and any gals out there, I seem to have a creaking floor problem compounded and caused by a flexing floor. The floor joist are 205x45 spanning 4 meters without any support in between, this I guess is causing it to flex. Done a bit of research and found that "sistering" will help minimise the flex. Any thoughts. Also wondering what would be a better timber option for sistering- LVL, structural pine or bracing plywood. Any suggestions welcome
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31st March 2009, 11:09 AM #2human termite
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talcum powder can fix the creaking, pour over floor then sweep up..............bob
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2nd April 2009, 04:43 PM #3Novice
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Unfortunately, there are very very few gaps between the floor boards, have tried the powder option but does not help and so I suspect it is the flex of the joist that is causing the problem
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2nd April 2009, 06:08 PM #4
some of the boards may be lose is it only a small section or the whole floor.
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3rd April 2009, 02:08 AM #5Novice
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its the entire floor, we recently had the floors polished and at that time all nails were punched down however the creaking still continued.
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3rd April 2009, 09:56 AM #6
The floorboards flex because the groove or the tongue (or both) that holds adjacent boards in alignment has split away from the board. When you step on that section of the board it will flex independently of it's neighbours either side.
Best way to fix the problem? Don't know....I have ideas but I am waiting for a higher authority to contribute.prozac
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6th April 2009, 06:55 PM #7Novice
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What are some of the ideas...I jacked 3 joist up yesterday - very slightly and walked over them, but the creak was still there. I have also noticed that sometime when I walk on the floor the boards about 3 feet away will creak...which now sounds like the possible reason you mentioned broken TG, how would i fix such a problem.
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6th April 2009, 07:03 PM #8
what space is tehre between the joists
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6th April 2009, 10:53 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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I have fixed a couple with WD40, spraying from underneath, squirting everything that stood still, dont forget the ends of the joists where they bear as a squeak can travel along the joist from the end & seem like it is coming from the middle of the floor.
Also with that span you would need solid or herringbone blocking at the ends & midspan which would reduce some flexing
regards inter
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7th April 2009, 10:53 AM #10Novice
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The space btw joist is 450 and the joist span is 3.9m unsupported.
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7th April 2009, 10:56 AM #11Novice
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To reinforce than span what would you recommend, is LVL stronger than oregon, also read somewhere that use plywood on the underside of the joist would give it addational support thereby reducing the flex in the centre of the joist. What are your thoughts
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7th April 2009, 11:00 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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I would do the simple things first then get into heavier stuff later, if the joists are HWD they are within span from the standard, if the joists are not blocked at all then thats a good place to start
regards inter
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12th April 2009, 01:19 AM #13Novice
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Hi InterTD6, when you say blocked is that the same as noggings, there are two blocks of timber across each joist. I will try to get a photograph and post it tomorrow,hopefully.
Happy easter to you all
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12th April 2009, 08:14 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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hi yul, can you tell me what type of joists you have?
e.g. are they hardwood or softwood?
once you tell me this, i can tell you a lot more...
regards, justin.
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14th April 2009, 03:57 PM #15Novice
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Hi Justin, Unfortunately the joist are painted over and I cannot say what they are, they are fairly easy to drill into- if that helps in anyway.
I have attached some pictures of the underportion of the floor hopefully that helps, alternatively I will rip off one of the noggings and take it to the timber mart and ask someone to check for me
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