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Thread: Best hardwood for deck
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5th January 2005, 08:55 PM #1New Member
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Best hardwood for deck
this question has probably been asked many times so i apologise for the repost (i am new here).
i am planning on building a low deck as an extension of my lounge - the ever popular indoor/outdoor room.
the deck will be about 35sqm with a pergola covering about 70% of it. the pergola will be open topped as i plan to grow an ornamental grape over it (much nicer shade).
I am leaning towards merbau as the timber for the deck. my priority it longevity plus the colour (dark is good - to match the indoor floorboards). does anyone have another suggestion?
also, what timber would i use for the pergola uprights and beams? obviously i want a uniform colour throughout the entire structure.
any and all thoughts/comments/suggestions are appreciated.
thanks
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5th January 2005, 09:07 PM #2Registered
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Jarrah Jarrah Jarrah, Oi, Oi, Oi.
Hi, and welcome.
I would go with Jarrah rather than Merbooooo.
As for the pergola I would use Irish Pine ( O'regon) , then paint it to suit the Jarrah decking.
Al
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5th January 2005, 10:16 PM #3
G'day.
I have a small deck/verandah on the front of my house that is Kwila (what we norvenas call merbau) & it's been there for 5 years now & holding up just fine.
Kwila (merbau) bleeds a lots when it gets wet & we still get a bit of bleeding after 5 years. The bleeding can stain other things around it.
Jarrah prob'ley looks better as Kwila often has a weird white/yellow fleck in the grain that looks like it's been painted & then sanded back.
Kwila is prob'ley cheaper, well, it is for us up here 'cos Jarrah don't here abouts.Cliff.
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5th January 2005, 10:30 PM #4
For a deck, outside in the weather, abused, hosed down, occassionally oiled or coated......in Aussie hwds, in this application.....Tallowood no contest. For the other application (shudder!)treated pinus...... Al could be right
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5th January 2005, 10:34 PM #5
If you use oregon for the uprights, make sure they aren't in the ground. Termites LOVE the stuff. Oregon is a termite banquet! You'll need to make sure it's well protected too, as it doesn't handle being in the weather so if it's not under a roof , then don't use it. Go with a good grade of structural treated pine.
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6th January 2005, 02:09 AM #6
Reilly, kwila is a very popular choice for decks around here along with yellow balau.
Now I know slightly less than bugger all about timber, but from what I've heard, kwila is a very durable timber, relatively easy to work with, but the ends can tend to split when nailing, and it does tend to bleed quite a bit. I've also seen a few kwila decks that have gone very dark, almost black, over the years, but this may have more to do with how they oiled it. I'm sure someone here would have a better idea than I.
Anyway, I will be replacing my deck in a couple of weeks, but, I wanted something a bit different from the neighbours and I came across northern box.
Apparantly, Northern box is a very hard and durable timber, can be a bit hard to work with and it doesn't like nail guns (my knees and back hurt just thinking about hand nailing it). The good thing is that it doesn't bleed (very important for me as my cars park under it) and although it is not quite as dark as kwila it does have some interesting variations in its colour. I took a few pieces home and oiled them up and they look absolutely brilliant!:mad: If it won't fit....FORCE IT!!!!
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6th January 2005, 09:29 AM #7
Jarrah, you can't beat it for decks
CheersSquizzy
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6th January 2005, 10:15 AM #8
Since you are in Melbourne you might try and access Red gum for your timber requirments, it's durable has a dark colour, lasts a long time outdoors etc.
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6th January 2005, 11:04 AM #9
for your decking ring a few local timber yards and see what's available in your area, get their advice on durability aswell.
for the pergola, as it's uncovered DON'T use oregon, it just won't last, go with treated pine.
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6th January 2005, 11:55 AM #10
G'day.
As E. Mac stated...Tallowood.
Next best...Turpentine.
Forget: Treated pine, Jarah, Kwila, Merbau and any victorian species.
N.S.W. hardwoods all the way.
It may be costly but you will be thankfull in the end.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
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6th January 2005, 12:08 PM #11Senior Member
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I would use spotted gum because that is what is available here. My prefrence is cypress pine. Its half the price and the local timber lasts well.
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6th January 2005, 10:18 PM #12New Member
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thanks to all for the comments
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7th January 2005, 11:58 AM #13Senior Member
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Reilly,
What is the floorboards inside?
In addition to trevor's shortlist, consider Ironbark too.
Regards,
Theva
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11th January 2005, 09:19 PM #14New Member
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You cannot go past Red Iron Bark decking 90 x 19. It will last forever. Be carefull though it will bleed for a while like most red timbers and will require predrilling. Iron Bark is very hard and holds up to the weather better than all the other red decks around. I think the only red deck that does not bleed is Red Mahogany.