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22nd March 2018, 10:55 PM #1
My Paling Failing - ½km of palings?
Over the last few and some years I have been accumulating hardwood palings, to make, ummm, fence furniture. I have already used quite a few for various projects. The accumulations have all been in various states of undress, bundled up and filed in the wood storage shed. This has meant that I have quite a number of similar packages which don't stack so well with short to long in each package.
I have some box making projects coming up, so now is the time to take them all apart, dress them, grade them in sizes and re-bundle in similar lengths that will stack better and be much easier for access.
Weather forecast on Tuesday said the next 4-5 days would be persisting it down raining, so here is a good indoor job I can line up.....'cept too late I saw that the rain was to start Tues arvo. "Right", sez I, "better get cracking." As did some low level thunder .
So I busted me foofer valve and got them all out of the lower shed, into the barrow and up to the top shed ready to work on. O'course, there was no rain in sight at all....just that one quiet bit of thunder.
So yesterday it really was raining, and I got stuck in to unpacking them all and sorting them into processing piles.
This is the most recent score form down the bottom of the street last winter. They were all good strong palings that yielded good thickness and good lengths. (some other dude who pulled up with his trailer was happy to take the "burners" while I took the "builders", which worked out to be about a 50/50 split.
1. Most recent stash.JPG
That's 49 palings, so I judged that the rest would be around 400 or so, giving a total of around 450.
2. Pile 2.JPG 3. Pile 3.JPG 4. Pile 4.JPG
Not quite, but 412 would have to be pretty close to a ½ kilometre of palings. That would stretch from here to the Carrington Hotel (the Far Side). There are two ways I could figure that out. I could wait until the rain stops, end-on-end them up to the Carrington, pause for refreshment(s)(s)(s)(s) and roll home, or perhaps it might be less trouble to pack them in to 200mm ranges (like 400-600, 600-800 etc), count them and multiply by the average length.
And pause for refreshments(s)(s).
Given the size of the job, apparently it was deemed that much supervision would be required.....
5. Supervision.JPG
but as is the way of such matters, boredom soon sets in, and alternative entertainment has to be found.
6. Boredom sets in.jpg
No no no, it's not what you think. He can't...he just doesn't have it in him....and neither does she. Just a nice thought on a rainy day.....
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22nd March 2018, 11:18 PM #2
You do have a way of phrasing things, now enough of those (s) and get into it
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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22nd March 2018, 11:27 PM #3
At the close of play yesterday I had dressed and thicknessed all the remaining faces (which was probably 40% of the total palings), and the count is 412 in total (I rejected a dozen or so for being too thin, too propellered, too cupped).
It's actually not possible to joint the faces flat because they are so thin and flexible to start with. Ages ago I got sick of tapering them either in length or across the width, and so now I just skip plane them through the thicky, which is much safer with such thin material that is also very brittle from weathering - and they're flexible enough to adapt to a final shape when building (hopefully straight) anyway. The edges are ok for jointing though.
Only a short day on the job today due to other commitments, but almost all have now got an edge jointed, and that will be finished in 30 minutes tomorrow, ready for edge thicknessing to the width brackets of every 5mm (so 80, 85, 90 etc). Some are quite wide at 125mmand some are even more at 160mm or so. One is even 200mm.
They are tricky things to edge thickness because they are so thin: 10-14mm with a very occasional one being 15mm after face dressing. The most common is 12mm. The risk of them falling over going through the thicky is high, so I have been clamping a bunch together (say 8) and running them through. This is actually fairly slow and I suspect that putting them through the table saw may be quicker, but doesn't leave as nice an edge.
O'course there is no such thing as "free" timber, as we all know, and palings are quite a lot of work indeed, but the character of the timber is extraordinary! It gets me every time. "The Prize lies beneath - hidden in full view!". It's so true - all of them are dull, grey, maybe mouldy or otherwise. What comes out of the other end of the thicky is a blast! That in-between zone before you hit "new" timber is fantastic for character, and can't be had from previously unused timber.
This time I left some occasional grey parts in the faces, and this can look really good - kinda like its own Milk Paint finish in parts. I also like that reminder of what it was before dressing. Some of the grain patterns/colours, and the sheen of the timber is as good or better than we would hope to get in proper purchased timber. One just has to be satisfied with either thin timber or laminating a number together to make thicker boards - two together makes an exceptionally strong board (I used some for a deck a couple of years ago).
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23rd March 2018, 05:44 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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That's some beautiful wood you got there... Lucky for you - Industrialization and Efficiency has not hit you there Down Under like it has here.... I can totally appreciate making furniture out of that sort of reclaimed fencing...
Here in The Colonies - all we can get is pressure treated pine fence palings unless we cut them ourselves... And on those - there is no treasure underneath - The weathered greyish green Arsenic chemical wood mush exterior only yields slightly fresher and less crumbly green Arsenic chemical mush wood inside.... No love for me....
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23rd March 2018, 05:52 AM #5
Well it's a start and that could sometimes be the biggest hurdle.
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23rd March 2018, 07:41 AM #6
Brett would have spend 10 hours cleaning after an hour of work
Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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23rd March 2018, 10:56 AM #7
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23rd March 2018, 11:14 AM #8
An example of the type of boxes I want to make: this is a Fruit & Vege box I made for my son a while back.
Vege Box 2a.JPG .... Vege Box 2b.JPG
The base is some 6mm ply I had hanging around (happens to be Marine Ply). Next time I'll be using Lube finish screws which are brown and should disappear on at least some of the timbers.
This is the deck outside the back door which is two palings laminated together and then thicknessed to a finished size 22mm.
Back Deck.JPG .... Deck 1.JPG
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23rd March 2018, 03:13 PM #9
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23rd March 2018, 03:19 PM #10
Hi FF
Recently a friend made some self-stacking boxes like yours but with one minor variance - he used triangular corner posts, which a a little kinder on the contents, and people notice them !
Presume your box bottoms fit into slots in the bottom rail?
Cheers
Graeme
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23rd March 2018, 03:39 PM #11
Or you could always use box pin joints....
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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23rd March 2018, 04:33 PM #12
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23rd March 2018, 06:02 PM #13
That triangle is a VERY good idea Graeme - thanks! No that box didn't stack into another (they just have two side by side in an Ikea monstrosity*) but I'm yet to design the next lot, and that is something that I wanted to incorporate. The way that one is set up you could have the feet say 15mm past the bottom rail, which would give projecting feet of 9mm if the base was 6mm ply. If the corner piece was then 6mm from the top then there would be 3mm clearance between the top and bottom rail of the stacked boxes. Noice!
*The Ikea monstrosity is some kind of Frankensteinian bookshelf,display shelf bloody thing. Yesterday I ran my hand over it to check the finish (as we are prone to do if we are also prone to sanding up to 3-4000 grit on our own projects).
I kid you not a whisper - the surface of the "dressed" Pine was like 40 grit abrasive!!! Maybe even 24 grit - unbelievable! If you fell against it, say after too many refreshment(s)(s)(s) you would remove several layers of skin, and draw blood - and that is no exaggeration. There were two things I couldn't believe - that it would get out of a factory like that.....even a Chinese factory of the worst standard.....and that someone would actually buy it....and he's my blood!!
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23rd March 2018, 06:33 PM #14Skwair2rownd
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Well FF you certainly have found some treasure under the oxidation.!!
A big congratulations on all your recycling efforts!!
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23rd March 2018, 09:36 PM #15
Stumps today saw everything thicknessed, edge jointed, and width thicknessed (except for a couple of odd sizes, which is only 20 or so palings). Ready to sort back into lengths, bundle wrap, and file back in the bottom shed. The shorties (which are no longer curly) will be the first to be used in some box prototypes.
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