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  1. 28th August 2008, 02:23 PM #1
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    Hi everyone,
    I've got another timber identification question. I'm uncertain of any specific forum for these type o issues, normally use the Woodturner forum (my main forum of interest, but not only...!), but I reckon, the "Timber" forum will more appropriate!

    Anyway, this time isn't me with the unidentified tree(s), but a friend trying to work out what they are.
    The Location is about 100km radius from Canberra, the number of trees is 2, one dead the other still alive, the tree species is Pine but the canopy shape, size and branches shapes are strange. There are also some other aspects that sound strange such as those mention by my friend, Quote " The needles are only short about 3" and the pine cone very small maybe 2 1/2" long and about 1" diameter, the bark is very smooth for a pine".
    This friend wants to know if the timber will be any good for slabbing or other, as Radiata pines have no value at all out there, and are cut left to rot somewhere.
    Obviously, if I was closer and not (1.500km away) I would solve that problem for him as I would keep it, regardless. Because it doesn't look Radiata, he mention that the trunk is very straight and long, just under 2' diameter. Looking at the pics he sent me, it looks like a Maritime Pine species going mad, other species that I know do curl their branches, don't grow straight trunks but keep close to the ground.

    I will continue to look for the answer but, if any of you have a clue or know what it is, please don't be shy, your assistance would be appreciated.

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  3. 28th August 2008, 03:14 PM #2
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    Hi RBTCO,
    You've only got a choice of about 111 species! I keep thinking of Aleppo pine, the Lone Pine of ANZAC tradition. Apparently established well enough in Australia to be considered a pest in some places.
    Wikipedia is good start for images to compare, but also found this US database.

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    Thanks Andy,

    That US link is a keeper, another good option for a search, thanks.

    Interestingly, I can thing or find anything that fits the description and pics. I most certainly never seen pine trees have these long curled and twisted branches hanging down. I still thing that, this is a trick of nature, on both trees (one dead, one alive), either due to soil incompatibility or other.
    Wonder what the wood will look like inside? I thing I know but, I can also being wrong...! will see!

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    At a guess the tree has had it's top blown out many years ago and the lower branches have grown in that weird curve after that. I've seen similar in old storm damaged trees.

    Not sure what type of pine they are, but a close look at the needles and cones will help ID it.

    The wood, it will be pine of some sort. The tree looks to have a couple of good logs in it, and as long as you have a use for pine, then saw it up.

    You could saw it up into 1x4s and make T&G panelling for book cases etc, to slice up some heavier 2" x as wide as possible for table tops etc. Air dried pine works great for heavy rustic type stuff. The low shrinkage makes it easy to dry 12x2 or wider stuff.

    But I suspect it will be similar to Radiata, which is just another Pine.

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    Took a while, but this could be a reasonable guess: Pinus leucodermis (white bark).

    If this is what it is, the wood is reddish and very heavy for a pine, traditionally used to make travellers' chests. It is now a protected species in Europe.
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