Silverwood?

**JamesP** · 26th October 2005, 01:17 PM

Hello All,

I'm a bit of an amateur traditional archer and I came across a reference to "Australian Silverwood" arrow shafts today.

This bloke in the states raves about them http://www.oldbow.com/silverwood_tapered_shafts.htm but I have never heard of them before.

Does anyone know what Australian Silverwood is, and where I can get some?

Thanks,

JamesP.

**AlexS** · 26th October 2005, 01:43 PM

Could it be Silver Ash? Straight grained, medium density, strong, might be the stuff. If so, it's available at Mathews Timber, St. Marys

**david kirby** · 26th October 2005, 02:07 PM

maybe silver quondong or silver ash both avalable from d&i kirby phone 0754947410 thanks dvo

**VEEBULL** · 26th October 2005, 06:21 PM

Dabbled a bit in archery myself a few years back .Port Orford cedar was the go for wooden shafts then but the good stuff was getting harder to source .
I am betting the stuff named as 'Silverwood' is Silver ash and would not mind betting 'Silverwood ' is generic term .Why not email the bloke and put it to him ? Ask him straight out , where he got the name ' Silverwood ' and ask for the scientific description . Which begs the question ' Why change the name of a known Australian species ?'
Course , it could be ,that it is a common or local name for one of our species that I have not heard .

regards
Veebull

**JamesP** · 27th October 2005, 01:24 PM

Thanks All.

**Cliff Rogers** · 27th October 2005, 01:32 PM

Silver Ash Flindersia bourjotiana WIA
Silver Ash Flindersia schottiana NPQ
Silver Aspen Acronychia acidula NPQ
Silver Aspen Acronychia wilcoxiana NAT
Silver Aspen Melicope octandra NAT
Silver Aspen Pieiococca wilcoxiana QUT
Silver Aspen Pleicocca wilcoxiana WIA
Silver Banksia Banksia marginata GWT
Silver Basswood Polyscias elegans NPQ
Silver Basswood Tieghemopanax elegans WIA
Silver Birch Casearia dallachii NTA
Silver Birch Casearia grayi QUT
Silver Box Eucalyptus pruinosa SK1
Silver Cadjeput Melaleuca argentea FCA
Silver Croton Croton insularis TSR
Silver Gimlet Eucalyptus campaspe EU2
Silver Gum Eucalyptus cordata NTT
Silver Gum Eucalyptus crenulata EUC
Silver Gum Eucalyptus dealbata FTA
Silver Gum Eucalyptus pulverulenta TAS
Silver Mallee Eucalyptus crucis EWA
Silver Mallee Eucalyptus cyanophylla NTS
Silver Mallee Eucalyptus falcata EU2
Silver Mallee Eucalyptus gillii EA4
Silver Mallee Eucalyptus ornata EA4
Silver Mallet Eucalyptus falcata EWA
Silver Mallet Eucalyptus ornata EU2
Silver Malletwood Rhodamnia acuminata NAT
Silver Malletwood Rhodamnia argentea NAT
Silver Malletwood Rhodamnia costata QUT
Silver Maple Flindersia acuminata NAT
Silver Marlock Eucalyptus tetragona EWA
Silver Mulga Acacia argyrophylla GWT
Silver Needlewood Hakea leucoptera NTS
Silver Oak Grevillea parallela FT2
Silver Oak Opisthiolepis heterophylla BWG
Silver Peppermint Eucalyptus risdonii GWT
Silver Peppermint Eucalyptus tasmanica NAT
Silver Peppermint Eucalyptus tenuiramis EUC
Silver Princess Eucalyptus caesia F19
Silver Quandong Elaeocarpus angustifolius GWT
Silver Quandong Elaeocarpus grandis WIA
Silver Quandong Elaeocarpus kirtonii ARF
Silver Silkwood Flindersia acuminata WIA
Silver Stemmed Wattle Acacia parvipinnula EA2
Silver Stringybark Eucalyptus cephalocarpa EUC
Silver Sycamore Cryptocarya glaucescens WIA
Silver Tea-tree Melaleuca argentea NAT
Silver Wattle Acacia dealbata WIA
Silver Wattle Acacia neriifolia AOA
Silver Wattle Acacia retinodes GWT
Silver Wattle Acacia rivalis AOA
Silvertop Eucalyptus nitens FTA
Silvertop Eucalyptus sieberi FT2
Silvertop Ash Eucalyptus sieberi WIA
Silvertop Stringybark Eucalyptus laevopinea WIA

**VEEBULL** · 27th October 2005, 02:39 PM

Good effort Cliff , how long did take you to type that mate ?? I did not see a 'SILVERWOOD' on the list .

Veebull

**JamesP** · 27th October 2005, 04:39 PM

Now I'm just overwhelmed!

**Cliff Rogers** · 27th October 2005, 07:07 PM

It's a cut & paste from here....

http://www.vwa.org.au/list_ta_abc.htm

I think you will find that Silverwood is a memory slip by some body who didn't write down what they thought they heard.

**JohnM** · 28th October 2005, 12:23 AM

Could also be

Queensland Silver tree, Tarrietia Argyrodendron

Silvery Honeysuckle, Grevillea Striata

**Arron** · 29th October 2005, 06:36 PM

I believe it is plain old Mountain Ash.

Ignore the 'silver' bit, that's just marketing talk.

Arron

**echnidna** · 29th October 2005, 06:50 PM

Don't think its ash as the "silverwood" is much finer grained than Ramin and there isn't much difference between grain tightness in ash and ramin.

**Arron** · 29th October 2005, 08:27 PM

Acutally, Bob, if you compare the stuff in the photos with mtn ash dowel then the 'silverwood' is coarser then mountain ash, not finer. In 'mtn ash' I also include Tassie oak and those several related Sthrn eucalypts. I think its annoying the way these marketing types talk such rubbish about timber. As an ex-archer I would be pretty happy with mtn ash arrow shafts, in fact I think I have some and will pull them out in the daylight tomorrow.

Arron

**Timber_finisher** · 7th December 2005, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by echnidna

Don't think its ash as the "silverwood" is much finer grained than Ramin and there isn't much difference between grain tightness in ash and ramin.

I remember using Ramin for school projects back in the early seventies. I have never seen it for sale anywhere. It's a very tight, straight grained timber that was very stable. I imagine it's quite suitable for arrow shafts.

Can you still get it or is it a timber from some threatened forest somewhere?

**Cliff Rogers** · 7th December 2005, 09:05 PM

Ramin timber has since August 2001 been listed under Appendix III of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna & Flora (CITES)

http://www.mtc.com.my/coverage74.htm

http://www.orangutan.org/press/news.php?id=87

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