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Thread: Is "Tassie Oak" suitable?
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31st August 2011, 10:48 PM #1Novice
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Is "Tassie Oak" suitable?
I hope this will not be seen as a rather silly question.
I am building a project, the body of a "woodie" car, that will be subjected to the weather occasionally. I have got hoop pine ply for the main panels and was going to also use hoop pine for the framing. However when looking at the Australian Standards I have noticed that the wood marketed as "Tasmanian Oak" appears more resistant to weather than hoop pine.
I would be grateful if someone more knowledgeable than myself could advise me if Tas. Oak would be suitable for the framework if I intend to use a high quality varnish.
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31st August 2011, 11:30 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Hi EnR, can you please post a photo or drawing of a body of a "woodie" car? I have never come across this term before
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Dengy
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1st September 2011, 10:34 AM #3Intermediate Member
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Hi,EnR. Tasmanian Oak is not generally suitable for external use, but if it is only occasional, and is well maintained with an external grade varnish, it will survive well. It will certainly be more robust than pine.
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1st September 2011, 11:30 AM #4Novice
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Here for JillB are some pictures. The second picture shows the type of body I am trying to build.
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1st September 2011, 12:25 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Ahhh... Thanks for the pics EnR, see what you mean now.
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Dengy
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1st September 2011, 02:31 PM #6Senior Member
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Hi, exiting project!
If you are going to seal it: you can use most timbers, it all depends on the quality of the finish you put on it. Have a look at what they use on boats.
If not sealed: you do have to be careful which timber you use. Have a look at outdoor furniture timbers. Teak, Cypress, Cedar, Celerytop and more. Then tas oak won't stay very nice.
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1st September 2011, 03:12 PM #7Hammer Head
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1st September 2011, 04:35 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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coachwood is what you need.
Can be bent, was used for coaches etc. in the old days (and aeroplane frames as well.)
dense, golden in colour.
Let me know if you want some, I can send some down with Mal to the Melbourne wood show in a month or so.
Check the markeplace section and you can see a photo of the timber.
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Greg
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1st September 2011, 07:06 PM #9
Awesome looking cars, i particularly like the ute.
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1st September 2011, 07:58 PM #10Novice
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Thank you the replies.
I am interested in using Tassie oak as my nearest supplier is 60 kms away. As far as I can work out anything more "exotic" means a trip to Melbourne which is 350 kms away. (However I am tempted by the coachwood and I'll try to work out more exactly what I need).
I'm glad that people can see some value in trying to build a vehicle like this. (Gaza; I watched "American Hotrod" but I missed the building of the woody).
Thanks once again for the feedback.
Ian
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1st September 2011, 08:16 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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freight
I can always freight it from Sydney if you organize a carrier and sort out how much you need.
Regards
Greg
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18th November 2011, 02:32 PM #12Senior Member
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I bought a '30 Ford wagon and we call it a woody
(Surf City, here we come)
You know it's not very cherry, it's an oldie but a goody
(Surf City, here we come)
Well, it ain't got a back seat or a rear window
But it still gets me where I wanna go
;-)
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18th November 2011, 05:33 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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As you are probably aware, Tas oak is not an oak at all. This is just a trade name for three species of eucalypt, all of which are not particularly durable.
My first trade was as a coach builder and woodies were a regular task. It is extremely important to use a durable timber, both for framing and panels. To rely on a surface coating to afford protection is courting danger. The exterior of a vehicle is subjected to masive climatic extremes, which in turn, test any exposed surfaces. Also unexposed areas are subject to moisture retention, requiring a durable timber. Greg's suggestion of coachwood is a good one. They didnt call it coachwood for nothing. Other durables would include crows ash, huon pine, red cedar king billy pine just to name a few. If this is your first woodie, just be aware there is quite a bit of work required. It would be a waste of effort to use substandard material. Think marine and you should be pretty safe.
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18th November 2011, 06:49 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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I remember the episode of American Hotrod and they had a lot of touble getting the doors to align. They ended up getting a specialist in to do the job which was beyond the skills of the "metal bashers" who always had the option of bog or lead to get things to align because they would be painted anyay.
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