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4th November 2017, 04:38 PM #1Intermediate Member
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Timber ID
Hi there, would any one know if this is Western red cedar, and help would be appreciated.
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Adem.
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4th November 2017, 05:23 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Looks more like Oregon.
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4th November 2017, 05:31 PM #3Intermediate Member
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4th November 2017, 05:39 PM #4
Looks like WRC to me. You can usually tell by the smell.
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4th November 2017, 05:44 PM #5Intermediate Member
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4th November 2017, 06:30 PM #6
WRC has a sort of cedary, westerny smell to it......
Looks more like WRC to me, although the grain can be deceptive. I've seen some very fine-grained (i.e. slow grown) oregon which looks a bit like WRC, but the grain in oregon is usually a bit more pronounced than your sample.
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6th November 2017, 09:31 PM #7Senior Member
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Looks like some of the Oregon that I have that has been cut on the quarter which has planer grain. Will try to get a pic of some of my Oregon later.
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6th November 2017, 11:47 PM #8
I'd say Douglas Fir, no question. We only call it Oregon in Australia because that's where it comes from. If you ask for a cubic metre of Oregon in the USA they'll send you to the North West to visit a Sand & Soil place
Two very simple ways you can tell, given that you have some "reference" DF. Cut or plane a piece of each. If they smell the same, then......
Second: WRC (~0.34) is significantly less dense than DF at around 0.55 or something from memory (and also has a much stronger smell, kinda like bananas). Take the dimensions of two pieces, weigh them, and work out the density, and that will tell you if they are the same.
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6th November 2017, 11:52 PM #9
Adem, you're not accounting for regional variances there. The same species from different soil types and rainfalls can look quite different. I have Douglas Fir that looks like both of those pieces. The grey piece on the right is classic weathered and concrete scaled DF - been used as a plank, I'll wager.
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6th November 2017, 11:57 PM #10Intermediate Member
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When I sand the Oregon I get a stronger smell and orange dust, where the other timber I don’t get a stronger smell and the dust is lighter in colour more pale.
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7th November 2017, 12:01 AM #11
Another clue, although far from being definitive, is the pink primer - absolutely necessary on Douglas Fir for outdoor use, but not so necessary on WRC. DF is not rated very well for outdoor use, but WRC is very commonly used for windows and doors due to it's durability in weather (think BBQ tables and seats).
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7th November 2017, 12:05 AM #12
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7th November 2017, 12:14 AM #13
The piece that your are holding looks like 2"x2", so about 50x50mm (although maybe smaller after dressing). If that size is accurate, then I betcha it weighs close as dammit to 1.35 kgs per lineal metre! (not allowing for paint weight). If it is WRC it will be less than 1kg /m.
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And then there is Hemlock.
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Density aside, I would suggest that visually, it is Oregon.
But as FF states, do a density check.
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