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18th April 2016, 01:29 PM #1Senior Member
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Timber ID ? Is it King Billy ?????
G'day
I bought this timber unseen but advertised as Huon Pine
Now I am certain it is not huon
I got it at a good price so whatever it is I am not complaining
I wet some areas in some photos
its 50mm thick
I have a second bit bought at same time its very different and will post photos of that in a day or 3
Any Ideas ? could it be King Billy ?P4177201.jpgP4177202.jpgP4177204.jpgP4177206.jpg
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18th April 2016, 04:44 PM #2
If it smells like Huon Pine, thats what it is , otherwise it Celery Top Pine. Not King Billy. NF.
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18th April 2016, 05:06 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Yeah. It looks like Celery Top Pine to me.
Cheers
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18th April 2016, 05:17 PM #4Senior Member
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I know you cannot tell from photos but I have some celery top and it seems lighter both in weight and colour and is much softer ( less hard )
also the rot on the ends
If it were to help I can take photos of it beside the celery top I have
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19th April 2016, 10:48 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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What about the smell? Certainly looks like very old huon pine.
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19th April 2016, 10:17 PM #6Senior Member
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No ,the distinct huon smell is not there when sanded
If anyone knows of someone on Gold Coast who can identify it I will take it for a drive
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19th April 2016, 10:38 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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No smell no Huon
yvan
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20th April 2016, 08:12 PM #8Senior Member
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I will add a couple more photos of the bark and of some rot on end P4197210.jpgP4197214.jpg
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20th April 2016, 08:21 PM #9Senior Member
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Photos of the 2nd piece
Here are photos of the other piece
Same species or different ?
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20th April 2016, 10:01 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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Anything to rule out Kauri?
I'd have said the first piece was bull kauri, Agathis robusta, or perhaps Vanikoro kauri , A. macrophylla....but the other piece looks more like NZ kauri (can't recall the species name )
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20th April 2016, 10:10 PM #11Senior Member
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Thanks I certainly had not looked at that possibility
makes me even more keen to find out for sure
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21st April 2016, 06:48 PM #12Intermediate Member
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Here's something to consider. Bootle's "Wood in Australia" lists Celery Pine as 1050kg/m3 green and 650kg/m3 dry. Huon is 960kg/m3 green and 520kg/m3 dry and I have never come across any that didn't have that characteristic smell, no matter how old and dry it was.
King Billy is much lighter at 620kg/m3 green and 400kg/m3 dry. That is actually lighter than common old Radiata Pine and it is softer too. Common Victorian radiata is around 3.3 on the Jenka scale and King Billy is only 2. I don't have a listing for the hardness of Huon but Celery Pine is 4.5.
The growth rings in your pics are wider than I would expect to see in a piece of celery or Huon. I think I have a slab of King Billy in the shed so I'll sand a bit back and get a pic for comparison on the weekend.
Greg.
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21st April 2016, 08:59 PM #13Senior Member
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Hi Snapper, I have used Huon for the last 11/12 years including a number of pieces just like yours and my bet is on Huon. Regarding the hardness I have found that Huon varies a great deal, I do Chip Carving and have had some that is very soft and have had other pieces that I have not ben able to get a knife into. Cheers Brian.
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23rd April 2016, 10:10 PM #14
I think I'll just put it my 5 cents. I reckon it's Huon. As soon as I looked at the picks it said "I'm huon!"
Tim. A man of measurable mess.
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