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    Default tree ID please

    can anyone shed some light on this tree please , and or the timber from it

    in the fork of the tree in the last picture you can see a dark object that is a car rim that the tree grew around over about a 50 year period

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    I think it is ulmus parvifolia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulmus_parvifolia

    Just noticed it is also called Chinese elm, not to be confused with Chinese elm we have around these parts

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    Texx, it looks like Chinese Elm, heartwood should be dark brown with a fairly wide white sapwood. Pretty easy to turn.
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    If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck then it's a friggin duck.

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    yep Chinese Elm

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    ok thanks guys , strange that the pro tree loppers never knew what it was

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    Quote Originally Posted by texx View Post
    ok thanks guys , strange that the pro tree loppers never knew what it was
    You get that. I once had one argue black and blue that a liquidamber was a silkyoak

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    If any one calls themselves a “tree lopper” don't believe much of what they say. They are worse than any other pest or disease when it comes to tree health.
    I worked as a tree surgeon / arborist for over 30 years and the most unsatisfying job was to try and repair trees that had been mutilated by tree loppers. Some call themselves qualified tree loppers which is a bit hard since what institution trains people to harm trees?
    For those who are interested your average tree lopper knows 2 things (perhaps not even how to do this safely) 1/ remove trees an often necessary thing 2/ cut the top off at a comfortable height standing in a fork. The epocormic growth that sprouts from the ends of these branches comes from just under the bark so there is little holding them on. They sprout many branches so make a very thick canopy that blocks the light and kills lower branches so the only live bits are these shoots (If they left any leaves at all) As they get larger these shoots push each other off but some remain and can sometimes grow around the old stub to form a strong union. This is the exception not the rule they usually blow off and just peel a thin piece of wood off the side of the original branch. The cut ends also rot so there is little to hold up this unstable growth. Trees are made to bend in the wind, like fishing rods they taper from the top to the bottom so the force is distributed evenly, so when a tree has been lopped not only does it look ugly there is a thick branch that changes to a thin branch so this is where it breaks. There was not much known about tree growth until the early 70’s when Alex Shigo’s work became well known. Well branches grow smallest at the start of the year to trunk at the end of the growing season so branches grow over the trunk then latter the trunk grows over the base of the branch. This causes the collar at the base of a branch (which should never be cut). This doesn’t happen with epicormic growth on a lopped tree. Feel free to email me if you want references as this is nothing to do with plant ID sorry.
    I hope they didn't bugga your tree Texx.

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    not my tree mate it is a tree in an old ( 80 )blokes yard .
    he told me the loppers charged him 1000 bucks to take off the branches that were hanging over his roof
    they had a cherry picker they used to lop with and they just piled the cuttings in the back yard and i got a few bits of it , thats why i wanted to know what it was

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