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16th March 2019, 01:36 PM #1Novice
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Trying to match timber on Japanese tea ceremony table
Hi! I wasn't sure if this should have gone in "restoration" or "timber", but I felt this was probably more appropriate. Yesterday I picked up this Japanese tea ceremony table from the tip shop. $15 later and I'm figuring out how to replace the missing panel on the right hand side. I've googled these tables and it seems that the missing panel is supposed to be solid, unlike the "drainer" panel on the left. The supporting timber/rebates on the right hand side are shallower than the left, but there may have been a missing metal drip tray that fitted under the left panel. Anyway,..I'm trying to match the timber. This feels like a hand-rubbed oil finish over a sanding sealer as there's no pore marks visible at all, so I don't think there's been any stain or coloring added. What timber do you think this is?....
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16th March 2019, 02:28 PM #2China
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If it is truly old ( impossible to tell without seeing it ) it could one of many timbers used in Japan, and is most likely stained and finished with the Japanese version of shellac, in a process similar to what we refer to as french polishing
if it is a modern item it is most likely Lacquered.
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16th March 2019, 03:37 PM #3Novice
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Hi China! I don't think there's that much age to it. The Japanese characters are routed deep and accurate - probably CNC routed. But I think you might be right about the finish,....looking a bit closer, the finish looks a bit more "thick" on spots than an oil finish.
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16th March 2019, 09:10 PM #4Taking a break
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The second pic looks a lot like rubberwood.
The characters also look more Chinese than Japanese to me, but I'm no expert on that... It would support the rubberwood theory though
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16th March 2019, 09:48 PM #5Senior Member
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The characters are definitely Japanese, meaning some sort of cloud ( auspicious, blessed or good omen - depending on the translation) according to my Japanese speaking and tour guide daughter. If you have no luck with your search she suggests you might like to contact a shop in Surfers called Japanache, which deals in Japanese antiques. www.japanache.com.au to see if they can help. Good luck with your search (and it looks like a really good buy).
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17th March 2019, 10:59 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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I also thought rubberwood as soon as I saw it. With a deep stain.
Can you see a bit where the finish has chipped off, or maybe never been stained. Is it a boney looking white timber ? Photo?
The finish looks like a sprayed industrial lacquer, the same as 90% of modern furniture, Western or Eastern.Apologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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18th March 2019, 06:52 AM #7Novice
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18th March 2019, 07:05 AM #8Novice
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Hi Arron, You are right. It is a boney white under the finish. I'll go look into rubberwood and what hand finishes will emulate the sprayed industrial lacquer look. Thanks for your help!IMG_2361_small.jpg
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18th March 2019, 12:53 PM #9
If you can't get the right timber and stain, you might get away with some Qld Blackwood and a clear finish, well looking at my screen re colour and grain
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18th March 2019, 01:50 PM #10Senior Member
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What a deal! If it's not a genuine antique, and it doesn't look like one to my semi-trained eye, you might want to consider shortening the length and eliminating the large open rectangle if you can't match the wood and finish. It will still look exotic and attractive.
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18th March 2019, 03:29 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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18th March 2019, 04:17 PM #12
Hi Gary
I was suspicious of this. The carving and the overall ambiance of the table just does not look Japanese to me, and would clash with the zen concepts deeply embodied in the tea ceremony.
Your daughter is correct. I asked a Japanese friend and he confirmed that the symbols are the kanji characters for significant cloud or important cloud or auspicious cloud. But remember, The Japanese adopted kanji from the Chinese.
So I asked a couple of Chinese students and they said that they were the classical or traditional Chinese characters, not the modern simplified characters, for xiangyun or auspicious cloud.
Cheers
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18th March 2019, 04:19 PM #13Taking a break
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19th March 2019, 06:34 AM #14Novice
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Hi dai sensei, I'm not having any luck sourcing rubberwood at the moment. The internet is throwing up heaps of manufactured furniture sellers, but nobody in QLD seems to sell the raw timber. I may very well have to go to blackwood or some other alternative. I wonder if kwila would stain well?....that's not hard to find here.
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