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    Default Can I Retrofit TRC001 thru the table winder crank to TRA001?

    The new TRC001 has been redesigned and now includes a winder crank.

    Anyone know if I can retrofit the crank to work with the TRA001?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Are you trying to fit a winder mechanism from a late model TRA001 to an early model TRA001?
    Later model TRA001 come with a winder handle and mechanism and have so for at least 3 years.

    I’ve only seen the TRC code used reference to the USA,

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    There was a writeup some years ago (I suspect before the updated TRA came out) where someone installed the through table winder mech from a MOF into their old style TRA. I recall that it required a total dismantle and reassemble, and some machine work in the lower case to make it happen, but it was about the only option the person had at the time. My best guesses on the source would be here or RouterForums in the US.
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    I asked Tool Spares Online a couple of days ago whether the latest winder shaft will fit the older model router, and was told no.
    I have one of each type of router and will take them apart to see if/where the moulding is different.

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    To install the winder shaft, you would need to commit a degree of butchery to the metal lower housing of the router as obviously the original winder shaft does not penetrate this unit. I'm not sure of the extent of butchery required, as I never attempted such a modification, but I know that someone did do a write up of how the did mod a TR series and install a MOF winder in place of the TR series original.

    I would expect a new tool and spare parts supplier to say no to such an enquiry, from a commercial perspective (why sell a cheapish spare part when you might sell a new tool), and from a liability perspective (does giving you information and supplying parts make them potentially responsible for damage to the tool if you try to modify it, or potentially responsible for injuries/damage if a machine that they facilitated modifying fails catastrophically.)
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    The quick answer is "No," the long answer is "It IS possible, but don't do it."

    The lower part of the motor housing (the silver part) of the later models has a correctly-positioned hole for the T-bar winder to emerge from, together with a dust-excluding ring. Home-made attempts to accurately drill this hole are VERY RARELY successful, but - even if this goes well - the upper part of the housing (the orange part) also requires modification. Either or both of these being a little out will result in the mechanism being stiff and prone to seizure. It can (therefore, probably will) render the fine adjuster barely useable.

    You will do as you wish, of course, it's your router, but I'd strongly advise against it. My M.O. with the older model* (which still runs beautifully, BTW) is to wind the bit slightly above the required height, then use the fine adjuster to get it perfect, with my eye-line at table level. In this position, the winding handle/knob is easily accessible anyway. I do have the MOF001 with the winding handle, but I still prefer to use the method described when getting the required height.

    * After removing the plunge spring, obviously! - Leave the plunge spring cap off when using in a table, allowing any crap to fall straight through, neither clogging the mechanism nor compacting into the cap sufficient to prevent full-depth plunging for bit-changing.

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    Can a Router Raizer be used instead? Just tossing this in for information (I have one coming for an Elu 177e).

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Can a Router Raizer be used instead?
    A Router Raizer is probably the biggest waste of money for use with a TRA001 I can imagine. Aside from losing depth of cut, you would also lose the ability to change bits above the table. I don't mean to sound negative about what is obviously a well-engineered product, but it is simply not appropriate to use with Triton routers. Thanks, anyway, Derek!

    Ray

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    Thanks to all.
    Apologies for the late thanks.
    We've been on holidays.
    Funny how time gets away from you no matter how much planning.
    Thanks,
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