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  1. #16
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    Exactly John

    I once gave an old hand held circular saw to a friend it was old but it worked and had all the guards etc. My mate being my mate started a job trimming some fence pickets to length after they were installed..

    He decided that the guard was in the way and the switch was better as a on/off switch not a squeeze type, so he replaced the switch and took the guard off (not easy in it's self).

    He got half way down the fence and cut his thumb off. The guards and safety gizmos are there for a reason.

    Although some are a real nuisance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davo453 View Post
    Although some are a real nuisance.
    I'll say.
    The old saws used to have a locking button on the trigger so you could mount them as a table saw. Now you have to duct tape the trigger. The big Makita still has the recess, and if you drill through the plastic you can shove a nail in. The trigger switch still has the hole for the locking button.
    The Makita planer has a button that you have to press before the trigger will depress, and it's annoying when you're scribing whilst holding the plane sideways, or if you need to use it left handed working off a ladder or something. But you can wedge a splinter in the button.
    My small drop saw has a releasing button as well. It's a cheapie, and it was designed really badly. A major PITA to use so I wedged it in.

    One thing that I did get rid of to improve safety is the locking button on my small drill. I ground it off because I never use it, and it's positioning made it easy to accidentally lock the power on. I'll admit that it's a good move that they banned it on power saws because I could see the same thing happening there.


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    Look at the sellers name, explains a lot????
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    he's put some better photo's there now.

    Still no guard on the thing though.

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    Weird. Why?

    Why photoshop? why originally fake the top?
    Why the mod? He's gained a minor amount of extra cutting capacity (around 9 3/4" blade rather than 9 1/4", so over the diameter, a gain of what..12mm? 15mm?)
    1/4 HP mains motor (not sure what that actually means) cf a 3 1/4 HP 2400W motor of a Triton saw. Perhaps he couldn't afford a decent saw.
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    At least you can put a 10" blade in there now. A lot more of them available as compared to the 9-1/4" blades...

    That said, I wouldn't buy it....
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    Being in a good mood, I'm inclined to be charitable and assume the 'shopped pic was just a placeholder until he got some pix of the real deal.

    Having regular need to finish cuts with a handsaw after partially cutting through from both sides, I can certainly see why someone'd want that extra 1/2"... and I've also thought about modifying my Triton CS to take a 10" blade. After all, there's no guard under a dedicated TS - they just box in the sides of the table.

    Even so, I wouldn't buy it. No tilt mechanism... which is the only reason I would move away from a Triton.
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    SOLD

    Congratulations Skew, when are you picking up
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    Has his pictures changed, because i don't see these problems?


    Quote Originally Posted by John G View Post
    Is it even a real picture??

    Where is the rear left leg?
    The front aluminium extrusion seems to end in mid-air.
    The rear brickwork looks like a computer generated wallpaper. You can "see" it through the left endplate.

    Looks like an amateur photoshop to me. Should set the alarm bells ringing.

    By "mains motor", do you reckon he means induction motor? Isn't 1/4hp about 200watts?

    If it's genuine, I wouldn't mind some more detailed photos of what he's done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FXST01 View Post
    Has his pictures changed, because i don't see these problems?
    Oh yes, big time............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!! View Post
    Being in a good mood, I'm inclined to be charitable and assume the 'shopped pic was just a placeholder until he got some pix of the real deal.
    That's possible, but I hate it when sellers do that - they should have some patience, and wait until they have the photos before posting the ad in the first place.

    I've been burnt in the past when a seller did that - changed the photo at the last minute to a different (and real) one (the change was subtle, and I missed it until after the bidding closed), and when the goods arrived not looking like I expected claimed that the final photo had been up for plenty of time for people to see it.

    I don't buy on eBay anymore (of the 1/2 dozen times or so I have, I've been burnt 1 in 3)- it is way to open for abuse, and no decent buyer protection. I will sell on eBay quite happily - the seller has no real risk.
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    Hi The beating around is not hitting the point. In a sale such asthis [an auction] caveat emptor [buyer beware] or some such thing comes into it . and apart from the safety aspect - with only a 1/4 H.P. motor it would be pushing up hill to cut anything more serious than a finger or 25 mm thick pad of butter. Yes it is real but basically you are looking at the bench so saying I will stick with my Ryobi 10" At least the safety gear is all there And I bought it from their clearance centre for less than his starting price sothe triton aint a bargain all best wishes Wally

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    Unfortunately Wally, you've come in well after the image was changed, so the "it is real" is only based on the images you have seen now (which do look authentic), but are not the image we were discussing.
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    Well someone bought it, they paid $150 not a bad price I guess.

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    From an Engineering point of view,

    It is dangerous,
    The motor is poorly matched to the use,
    The only tension on the belt is the weight of the motor, swinging about It's ill concieved mounting frame.
    If it does run at high speed, there is a high chance the wedged belt will lift away from the pulley/s due to centrifugal force.

    As dangerous as it looks, it is probably more like a circular rasp?

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