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    In NY around the same time Spiers was making mitre planes there were manufactures of very similar planes.
    Like the UK they were retailed to high end workers through retailers like Hammacher Schlemmer Co, NY in their Piano Tool Catalogue.

    Makers like Erlandse c1900, Brandt c1850, Thorested c1858, Popping c1890.

    In the catalogues Popping's mitre style plane is called a Block plane, and is said to work as well in Bone & Ivory as well as the hardest wood.

    We can't overlook the ivory and shell work done at the time. It was a huge industry.
    (I have the tools of a worker in Ivory and shell who worked in Melbourne's Block Arcade)

    H.S. & Co describe the mitre plane style by Erlandsen as a smooth plane.

    Here is an article worth a look, includes some pics of the NY made planes.
    Other Interesting Planes | Martin Shepherd Piano Service


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    I almost had a Stanley 9 . Chipped and cheap. I missed it though so never have tried one . It looks that it would handle the same way as the old ones though . Except the hot dog improvement . That looks good.

    highroller in post 29 linked to a Robert Towell Mitre resto by Jim Hendrix . He added an Ebony Hot Dog to either that plane or another like it . He posted it on Isntagram . Have you fellows been checking out whats on Instagram . Pretty good !!

    Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but the Stanley 62 is a step ahead of the old Mitres for its Handling qualities in the upright position. Handles front and back and an adjustable mouth. I have one of those to play with .

    With shooting on a board I find there is a lot of ways it has to be done . Id love a Stanley 51 and 52 , Ive never come across a bargain though and Ive slowed almost to a complete stop with tool buying. The problem with buying Stanley is it can go on and on and never stop if you get the collecting bug . Ive fought off the bug a long time ago and stuck to buying users in wood, iron, and cast iron . I love being able to pick a time and an appropriate tool for the style and the wood I'm using.

    Sharing them around for use in the workshop with younger guys is good too , along with stories of the cabinet trade at the time and how they were made .

    Same with the clients they love it too . Part of the sizzle that sells the sausage as my Dad used to say .

    We used to lay on the sizzle if they showed interest, lol, easy when its your passion . Their wife is trying to get the guy out the door and I cant stop talking . Then four months later a Farmer walks in, and says his brother was in here and said this is the place to buy a table . " he said you had some shiny planes "

    And some Tall Bearer Tables

    Edit . I just did an Edit, taken from the Spiers Book by Lampert, to the dates and info on the Spiers add in post 40 .

    Rob

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    Yes Rob, there is some fine stuff being shared on Instagram in the woodwork community.
    Jim did a fine job with that plane.

    I don't have an infill mitre plane but I did recently acquire another type of mitre plane, namely a Rogers Patent Mitre Plane.
    You can read about them here:
    http://www.leevalley.com/us/newslett.../5/patents.pdf
    The Rogers Miter Planer
    I picked mine up for much less than a 51/52 or a Vintage mitre.
    Mine is the smallest model from pre Millers Falls ownership circa 1890.
    It has Simonds blades. I'm away at the moment but I'll post some pics when I get back.

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    I don't mean to derail, but you guys should add me on Instagram.

    @man_meets_wood

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    Interesting tid-bit

    H.O. Studley of Studley Tool Chest fame was a piano maker.
    His tool chest doesn't contain a #9 or other obviously recognizable miter plane.
    (EDIT: the sentence above is wrong, as Peter (Lightwood) correctly notes below, I should have looked in more detail at the tools in Studley's chest.)

    Edit: curious [Perhaps not surprising] when you consider that miter planes are said to be tools of the piano makers trade.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Interesting tid-bit

    H.O. Studley of Studley Tool Chest fame was a piano maker.
    His tool chest doesn't contain a #9 or other obviously recognizable miter plane.

    Curious when you consider that miter planes are said to be tools of the piano makers trade.

    Ian,
    There is a #9 in there.
    Cheers,
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    That took some searching to be able to see that.

    Its there.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiroller View Post

    I don't have an infill mitre plane but I did recently acquire another type of mitre plane, namely a Rogers Patent Mitre Plane.
    You can read about them here:
    http://www.leevalley.com/us/newslett.../5/patents.pdf
    The Rogers Miter Planer
    I picked mine up for much less than a 51/52 or a Vintage mitre.
    Mine is the smallest model from pre Millers Falls ownership circa 1890.
    It has Simonds blades. I'm away at the moment but I'll post some pics when I get back.
    Very Nice !

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    ... Id love a Stanley 51 and 52 , Ive never come across a bargain though ..
    Rob
    Rob, I paid about $500 (I don't recall exactly) for this #51/52 a decade ago.




    Of course, it needed a lot of restoration, and the broken frog scared all the others away in the auction.

    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    Ian,
    There is a #9 in there.
    Cheers,
    Peter
    you are right

    I should have looked more closely.

    (I've edited my original post)
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekcohen View Post
    Rob, I paid about $500 (I don't recall exactly) for this #51/52 a decade ago.
    Bargain Derek!

    How was the frog fixed ?
    It looks like a one off of a type , hard to get thing .

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    ...... In particular I note the other Ian's report that a miter plane purchased around 1850 was still in regular industrial use over 100 years later.
    Nope, not me, that were Lightwood. This Ian has a very limited knowledge of tools & tool history- several orders of magnitude less than Peter's!

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightwood View Post
    .....There is a #9 in there.....
    Yup, 4th from the left - the big brass(?) knob is a dead giveaway...
    IW

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    Bargain Derek!

    How was the frog fixed ?
    It looks like a one off of a type , hard to get thing .

    Rob
    Rob, the frog was brazed. This was a common problem and a common fix for the Stanley#51. The weak area is the frog, which is a different design to that of the bench planes.

    Here you see a #3 (same size) on the left, and the #51 on the right ..



    LN incorporated a #5 1/2 frog into their plane. Veritas used a BU version in their version. Both are great planes, but the real prize in my original purchase was the #52 shooting board.

    The #52 is sublime with the Veritas shooting plane ..



    Regards from Perth

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    Nope, not me, that were Lightwood. This Ian has a very limited knowledge of tools & tool history- several orders of magnitude less than Peter's!

    Cheers,
    I did have a bad day, didn't I.
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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