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    Default Carbatec compound Hand mitre saw

    Have been considering to buy a hand mitre saw for a while... cant really justify the price of the Nobex for what I will use it for... Has anyone had any experiences with the Carbatec or Timbecon mitre saws?

    Specifically I was looking at these...

    Carbatec CPTC-600
    http://svc010.bne011i.server-web.com....html?cache=no


    Timbecon Compound Mitre Saw - AY-608
    http://www.timbecon.com.au/products/picture-framing-447_0.aspx


    regards

    marios
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    I don't know about those two models but I did buy a cheap hand mitre saw once, cost around $50. After a few trials and much angst I threw it in the bin. I then went out and bought a Nobex, good quality and it cuts perfectly. I was, and still am, building small boxes and I needed the accuracy that only the Nobex could deliver.

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    Marios

    I have the basic (non-compound) version of the Carba-tec (or similar - not badged Carba-tec but I got it from them a few years ago, probably before they re-badged it). What I can say is mine cuts very accurately. I do not know what the compound version is like but, if you do not require the extra complexity of compound cuts, you cannot go wrong with the basic mitre saw. A Nobex would be very nice, but it has been low on my Wish List since this saw does crosscuts and mitre cuts so well.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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    Stick with the Nobex, you won't regret it in the long run.

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    Default Problem with Nobex Mitre saw

    I have a Nobex which I bought specifically because of its accuracy. I just discovered that is does not cut square vertically. ie, the cut is not exactly perpendicular to the length of the piece being cut.

    I'm sure it was ok last time I used it but it ain't now.

    I'm not sure what to adjust/tweak toget it back to 100%.

    So I cast my query to the wider field of experts for some assistance.

    Any ideas?

    Cheers,

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    Don't know much about them. Long time ago I had one of those cheapy versions, which of course was crap.

    What I have know.....which I'm just so proud of.....gee wizz....is an old Stanley Mitre saw(no.60 ? should bloody well know ). Cleaned up it works well. Like it because I can re-sharpen it myself. And how I like.

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    I'll second Derek.... I also have the basic version, the non-compound mitre, which cuts as accurately as I let it. Hint: make sure the timber is clamped tightly when cutting as letting it move will always screw the cut regardless of the brand of saw.

    I'm happy enough with it that there are no plans for its' future retirement.

    BTW it canl do compound cuts with the use of a simple jig to hold the wood at the correct angle to the table instead of tilting the blade.
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    Dan I have a nobex champion & find if using a to finer blade on thicker timber the cut does run off . Cutting some 90 x 90mm table legs awhile back used a coarser blade with great results.


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    When I first put my Nobex together it cut crooked. I was pretty disapointed. I read the very unhelpful instructions, written in Cihglish, which I thought odd. Anyhoo, all I did was pull the vertical rods off, and put 'em back in, all was well. I guess I didn't have them in just right.

    MAybe yours have taken a knock, and gone outa whack.
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    I had one of those cheap crappy ones as well, and picked up a nobex that fitted from a throw out table for $7. The blade gave accurate cuts and worked well until the casting on the guides cracked, in the end I guess crap wins out (i.e. usually fails you in the end).


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    On the basis that "If it is good enough for Derek, it should be good enough for me", I bought one of the Carbatec mitre saws today (the standard one, not compound). It was the last they had at Carbatec Sydney although they still have stock of the short version and the compound version. They said they are unable to get any more from the supplier at present.

    First impressions were not good. The plastic base is very flexible. It does have a hole at each end to allow it to be bolted or screwed to the workbench. This would reduce the flex but a metal base would be much better. (the base of the Nobex is aluminium). The clamp intended for holding down the workpiece is virtually useless and personally I would remove it. I held the workpiece by hand although a couple of G clamps of appropriate size could possibly be used.

    Well, I gave it a try, firstly on a 90 degree cross cut. The result was very good - perfectly straight in both dimensions and much better than I can do freehand or with a cheap mitre box. Then I tried some 45 degree mitre joints. The results were beautiful - a perfect fit and far better than I have ever managed in the past. So, despite its limitations, I have no regrets at all about the purchase.

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    Hi Coldamus

    I am pleased and relieved that your mitre saw works well since I do not think we have the same one. When you said yours had a plastic base, bells rang and I went and had a look at mine, even took a picture. Mine is German-made by TRT. Since Carba-tec no longer seem to sell it but one that looks very similar (but blue, I recall from memory), I suggested that it is just re-badged. The TRT is an alloy, probably aluminium. It does have some plastic in the fittings. Here is a picture:



    I am still happy with it as it gives accurate and reliable results.

    However, I have a couple of pics below of the mitre saw I am restoring. If it is, as I have been informed, a Stanley #358, it dates to about 1910. The mitre saw is not original to it, but probably about 1960. I am still looking for a correct saw.

    Jake, post a pic or two of your Stanley #60. I would love to see it.

    Here is the #358 so far:



    and what it looked like before:



    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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    Hey Derek...great taste in miter saws there...




    Though other than replacing the table on mine I haven't cleaned it as nicely. Here's a link to manuals and parts http://www.tooltrip.com/tooltrip8/index.htm. (I see you have the saw guides on upside down .)

    It is a great miter box and I heartily recommend people find an oldie. They are meant for working all day, everyday and stand up to hard work.

    Mike

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    I see you have the saw guides on upside down
    Well that would explain the lack of depth of cut!!! :eek:

    I am still restoring it so have not used it yet, but the saw lines up squarely.

    Thanks for the link Mike. I do have it but I could do with a few pictures of a completed saw. I know I am missing the top stabiliser (which is on yours), and could not see how it fitted (well, if the guides are upside down, I guess it would be hard ).

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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