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16th September 2011, 04:25 PM #1
Chisels
I'm in the market for some good chisels and got talking to another tradey about them. He was looking for one whose handles didn't break; even the through-tang Stanleys broke for him. I can't imagine what he was doing with them for this to happen but that's what he said. I have only ever had Stanleys and their blade quality was a bit varied. I did give some tools away a little while ago and now I'm looking for a replacement set of general purpose chisels to use onsite. Now, I'm not looking for anything fanciful, it doesn't need to be a specific brand particularly, but my new ones will need to hold an edge, be subject to some rough onsite treatment, and have good reach. I don't plan on getting a $900 piece of kit to maintain a $40 chisel, so I will be hollow grinding and honing on an oilstone.
I'd like to hear from any carpenters out there what they're using and what they think. Trade-wise, there's not a lot and I think I know what the answer's gonna be. My choice at this time is the through-tang Stanley but some I've had before were a bit soft and one can never tell in-store how hard the steel really is. I did see some Irwins with a steel cap but I don't know how well they would hold up in the heat of battle; handle or blade. I'm not interested in something made in 1283 in outer Mongolia by Shaolin monks with wooden handle and steeped in history, just a hardcore ballsy chisel.
What are you tradies using?
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16th September 2011, 05:24 PM #2
OK, first up I'm not a tradie, but I have a set of chisels that I have put together over many years that get used all the time in the tradie-type jobs.
I have built one house and renovated four others, as well as a very decrepit block of four flats. There have been four sheds, decks, shade houses, chook houses, cubby houses, tree houses verandahs and extensions.
I don't abuse my tools and I won't let anyone else do so - including my kids - who have built their own cubbies with them.
Like you, I have heard mixed reports of the Fat Max - some excellent and some disappointing.
If you are in a hurry to put a set together, then there aren't a lot of brands to choose from that fit your needs.
I have heard good things about the Bahcos if that is any help.
You could put together a set of odds and ends like I have if you are not in a hurry.
Out of interest, this set contains Stanley, Marples blue chip, Nooitgedacht, Berg and Marples amber and red handle.
All of them have been good except the last one whose steel is a bit soft, but I have kept it as it is 1/8", and sometimes it is useful.
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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16th September 2011, 08:37 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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I've got these from LV which are carpenter style chisels. Pretty good so far and probably cheaper than most others at approx. $15 each
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Cheers,
Sam
Ps - I'm not a carpenter
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16th September 2011, 09:07 PM #4
Also not a real chippie, but over here (in France) the carpenters often use these monoblock chisels. I saw them at carbatec a while back. They might be a good bet, they aren't that expensive either normally...
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17th September 2011, 05:58 PM #5Member
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Hi
I'm a carpenter and I have been using bacho chisels for a long time, They take an edge and keeps it. The handle is imposible to breake! A bit pricy perhaps....
https://www.toolsunlimited.com.au/sh...roducts_id=343
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17th September 2011, 07:32 PM #6
Thanks Scribbly, you seem to fit the tradey category ok. There's a market not far from me and I may well end up with set like yours.
Hi Sam, what are they like holding an edge for any length of time?
Berlin! I've never seen anything like it. Looks like a set of cold chisels. Will be investigating those, thank you.
Andreas87, I saw some Bahcos like yours yesterday, each one in it's own holster, not pricey if they work for you. They don't have the strike plate on the handle to pass the blow down the blade, do you find yourself wanting one?
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17th September 2011, 08:39 PM #7
Aren't you allowed to use a wooden mallet on chisels on a commercial job anymore? Is there a H&S risk of splinters?
We don't know how lucky we are......
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19th September 2011, 06:18 AM #8Member
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Andreas87, I saw some Bahcos like yours yesterday, each one in it's own holster, not pricey if they work for you. They don't have the strike plate on the handle to pass the blow down the blade, do you find yourself wanting one?
Not really, I have never thought of it actually, perhaps a good sign? I started as an apprentice carpenter (building houses) about 6-7 years ago, and i still use the same chisels, I rarely do very precise work with them, but they have done that to. They are the sturdiest chisels I have ever seen when it comes to handles; 6-7years used 5 days a week with a 750g claw hammer. The best thing about them is how easy and fast they are to sharpen, you get a burr up in no time. In Norway there’s not a whole lot of chisels to choose from so I can’t say how they are compered to your local brands, if in doubt buy a size you rarely use but need and test it. You do need to remove some milling marks on the flat side if you want them to hold the edge longer. (If you dont have stones to do that use sandpaper with glue on a glass plate.)
Happy hunting!
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19th September 2011, 09:24 AM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Re edge holding - I havent got much to compare them to sorry but they do last alot longer than my cheap black handle stanley's.
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19th September 2011, 10:46 PM #10
As a chippie by trade, I've managed to accumulate 3 full sets in the last 20 years. Marples / Irwin blue chip, Stanley's and Footprint. The Marples feel the nicest to use, but the Footprints hold the best edge.
If I had to buy new 'carpentry' chisels again I'd go the Bahco's. Way better than the current offerings from Irwin and Stanley.
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20th September 2011, 11:07 PM #11
Lee Valley Tools - Important Announcement - these are the all steel ones, not the same LV link as posted above.
Decent markets/second hand shops, old tool shops usually try to flog off plastic handled, modern, chisels for about the same price as these LV ones, plus they all need work put into them to get them up and running. The all steel ones make sense for some applications.
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