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14th April 2018, 11:03 PM #1
Disston - Gone nuts
A short while ago a work colleague brought in four saws for me to see . He really just wanted to know if there was anything worth salvaging. The answer was probably not very much unless there was some sentimental value there somewhere. However, there was a single saw that was of some interest, but it was in poor condition with the handle as good as non-existent.
The hardware made me curious and I asked him to send me a picture, which I have posted below. The saw screws have the keystone logo on them. I feel that I have seen this before, but for the life of me I cannot remember the context. A quick search of the net did not show anything and a similar glance at the Disstonian Institute revealed nothing, but I may have missed it.
Disston with Keystone logo..jpg
As you can see, the saw is a little rugged , but has anybody any knowledge of the saw screws? If the medallion is correct it would place the era from 1917 - 1940
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PaulBushmiller;
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15th April 2018, 01:39 AM #2
I've never seen the like. Medallion suggests post '18 production. Were they nickel plated?
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15th April 2018, 08:19 AM #3
Rob
I can't remember if they were nickel plated. When I saw them it was only briefly as I was just finishing a night shift and Hamish was one the relief crew coming in for the day shift. Consequently the exchange was brief. I may contact him to see if he will bring the saw in again so I can hav another look and take a pic of the whole saw.
I feel that I have seen that type of saw screw before, but cannot remember where.
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23rd April 2018, 02:17 PM #4
Hi Paul. I put a copy of your pic up on fb in a saw-interest group asking for any info anyone might have - and all the usual (mostly US) suspects hadn't seen your nuts before. I mean ... ahhh ... well, you know ... ahhh ... what I mean.
There was a suggestion possibly of a presentation saw ... or something peculiar to Oz ...
Remains a mystery.
[edit] ... you don't suppose they were home-made out of medallions??
Cheers,
Paul McGee
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23rd April 2018, 06:48 PM #5
There new to me [emoji849]
Next time I'm in the creative zone looking at the wall of saws.
I look harder Paul.
Cheers Matt
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23rd April 2018, 10:43 PM #6
I think I’ve seen something like those on a post HK Porter acquisition mitre box saw. I thought I still had it but I’d given it away. I saw the post on Facebook, and if those guys don’t recognise it, then maybe you should start thinking newer rather than older. Paul is it possible that the previous owner cobbled together some saw nuts from other saws?
Edit: the mitre box saw in question had no medallion, but three of those style nuts. Or, I’m remembering things that never existed.
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Paul; as an aside to your post, Today I needed to extend the thread length on a set of saw bolts for a Spear & Jackson handsaw. The threads used are a near perfect match to the 12-20 coarse machine threads used by Stanley for their tote posts. The Disston saw bolts also match the same thread type. (The earlier type split nut assemblies don't apply due to their smaller dia, shanks.)
Stewie;
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24th April 2018, 11:17 PM #8
Thanks Stewie
I did acquire one of those dies. Of course since acquiring it, I haven't needed it!
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24th April 2018, 11:30 PM #9
Here is a shot of the full saw. It is as I said more than a little ragged, but I had forgotten about the nib which sets the date back quite a way.
Disston mystery saw.jpg
I don't think the medallion is in the correct position. I also tend to doubt that it originally had four saw screws. I would have expected the plate to be more angular in the handle area so possibly the saw has been set up for a different handle. Disston retained the nib on their No.7 until 1927. I was trying to ascertain what model of saw it might be, but I realise I am completely off beam here as it is the saw screws that are important and probably the only aspect of which we can be sure.
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26th April 2018, 05:54 PM #10
Paul.
With the greatest of respect can you please inform my self and the wider viewing public.
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"Here is a shot of the full saw."
I'm struggling with the full bit.
It's been sharpened to death and beyond, I wouldn't even sell that to one of those morons who paints saws.
It has 10 percent of its handle left and is it missing a saw bolt or two?.
I hope you don't think I'm digressing, like I would never do that.
But I just can't see that as a "full" saw.
Cheers Matt
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26th April 2018, 06:20 PM #11
Matt
I can't understand your reasoning here. This is a saw in the prime of it's life. If it were a human , it would need some bionic bits, agreed. There is a huge history just staring you in the face and the fullness is merely a function of your imagination.
You just have to imagine two or three inches on the end (not normally an issue for the male) and think of all the timber that this tool must have cut to be so reduced to a shadow of it's former self. Think of the provenance.
I concede that the handle could be more substantial, but that is a side issue and one that somebody like yourself could easily deal with. I think the handle is intriguing. Think prosthetic here.
Actually this saw is full in the same way as a box of corn flakes breakfast cereal.
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28th April 2018, 01:15 PM #12
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28th April 2018, 03:19 PM #13
rescission of the tooth-line
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