Ebay Droppings Thread.

[Vann]

The Vintage Record Abomination from post 2180 has been relisted every two weeks now for the last 5 months...

Amateur !!

We have a guy over here who's peddling similar junk with some items listed for over 6 years, week after week. For example: for $85 this aerated spar plane could be yours (borer holes at no extra cost)

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https://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-c...31b9d761cbe468

Cheers, Vann.

[Vann]

...We have a guy over here who's peddling similar junk with some items listed for over 6 years, week after week...

And this plane I recall from when I first became interested in old tools around 10 years ago...

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https://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-c...8bc68e71bcc9eb

A free listing lasts a week on Trademe. Allowing a day or two to relist after each auction expires, this poor old beaten up Keen Kutter will have been relisted over 400 times
I think he's lowered the price considerably in the last year.

Cheers, Vann.

[IanW]

And this plane I recall from when I first became interested in old tools around 10 years ago.....

The description lacks technical finesse, but seems brutally honest, Vann:
"...The metal parts look OK. There is not the long thing behind the blade the moves the blade to the left or right. One of the screws that hold the middle bit down has snapped off. The blade winds in & out though...."

With no lateral adjuster, & a frog screw broken (most likely seized in the body & would need some delicate surgery to remove it). I can't figure out what is going on with the rear tote - is that metal brazed/welded to the sole, or a bit of wood? If the latter, how is it attached?

If it hadn't had the unfortunate life experiences it's had, it might've made a decent user - seems the KK planes were made by Ohio Tools, but even the rankest newbie would realise this is one to avoid. So really, by keeping it listed at a price no sane person would pay, he's doing the world a favour by keeping it out of circulation!

Cheers,

[IanW]

And this plane I recall from when I first became interested in old tools around 10 years ago.....

The description lacks technical finesse, but seems brutally honest, Vann:
"...The metal parts look OK. There is not the long thing behind the blade the moves the blade to the left or right. One of the screws that hold the middle bit down has snapped off. The blade winds in & out though...."

With no lateral adjuster, & a frog screw broken (most likely seized in the body & would need some delicate surgery to remove it). I can't figure out what is going on with the rear tote - is that metal brazed/welded to the sole, or a bit of wood? If the latter, how is it attached?

If it hadn't had the unfortunate life experiences it's had, it might've made a decent user - seems the KK planes were made by Ohio Tools, but even the rankest newbie would realise this is one to avoid. So really, by keeping it listed at a price no sane person would pay, he's doing the world a favour by keeping it out of circulation!

Cheers,

[Lappa]

While not a hand tool and not eBay, I still think this Gumtree post may fit.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cast...lia/1204216761

[Chief Tiff]

Oh. My.

Stanley Rebate Plane with Marples attachment

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[Colin62]

I saw this listing on the local auction website https://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/4013...rly_1900s.html

At first glance it doesn’t look too bad, but when I looked a little closer I noticed a couple of anomalies. I suppose the obvious one is the Record blade, but all that means is that the blade we used (although the amount of wear left on that one means it’ll also need replacing pretty soon). Secondly the handle just looks off - too square and not rounded over enough. And the screw on the foot of the handle isn’t brass. And the frog is wrong for the age of the body - especially when you realise that there’s no frog adjuster screw.

Looks like an early type body, a fake handle, quite possibly a damamged thread on the handle screw, a pretty useless blade, a later lever cap, with a much later frog - which is set so far back as to be totally useless. It’ll be interesting to see if that frog can get any closer to the mouth on the old frog receiver. I wonder if the knob is original.

A Franken-plane.

[Chief Tiff]

Hmmm, not convinced it’s a Frankenplane. Looks like an early type 16 that has probably had the handle replaced and has lost the frog adjustment screw (picture 8 shows the threaded hole where the screw... isn’t). The screw on the front of the handle is steel, which would be correct. I don’t recall reading anywhere that the front screw on the handle (only fitted to number 4-1/2” and upwards) was ever made of brass.

Lever cap damaged, frog screw missing, replacement handle and effectively no blade pretty much means its value isn’t too far away from the starting bid price.

[IanW]

Tiff, I think you're on the money, though the flow-chart I followed makes it a type 15 (1931-32). My first reaction when I flipped through the pics was similar to Colin's, but everything fits with a type 15. I think it's because the plane has had a rough life and looks older than it really is. The caption "early 1900s" also had me thinking pre-WW1, but the high knob, which looks original (unlike the bodgie tote) said later.

The chamfers on the corners of the lever-cap are intriguing - they look symmetrical & neat, not the sort of rough chips one sees all too frequently. Did someone clean up damaged corners, or did they do that deliberately, for some strange purpose??

Whatever, I think you'd be well advised to approach this one very cautiously, Colin. It might be worth $50 and make a decent plane with a new blade & lever-cap (I can live happily without frog adjustment screws), but I'd want to inspect it carefully before paying anything at all!

Cheers,

[IanW]

Tiff, I think you're on the money, though the flow-chart I followed makes it a type 15 (1931-32). My first reaction when I flipped through the pics was similar to Colin's, but everything fits with a type 15. I think it's because the plane has had a rough life and looks older than it really is. The caption "early 1900s" also had me thinking pre-WW1, but the high knob, which looks original (unlike the bodgie tote) said later.

The chamfers on the corners of the lever-cap are intriguing - they look symmetrical & neat, not the sort of rough chips one sees all too frequently. Did someone clean up damaged corners, or did they do that deliberately, for some strange purpose??

Whatever, I think you'd be well advised to approach this one very cautiously, Colin. It might be worth $50 and make a decent plane with a new blade & lever-cap (I can live happily without frog adjustment screws), but I'd want to inspect it carefully before paying anything at all!

Cheers,

[Colin62]

Fortunately I’m more circumspect with my bidding than I was with my comments on this plane!

Tiff, thanks for the gentle corrections.

Hmmm, not convinced it’s a Frankenplane. Looks like an early type 16

On reflection (and after some more thorough research) I think you’re right, although the body might possibly be a type 15, so it might have been made on the changeover from one type to the next.

has lost the frog adjustment screw (picture 8 shows the threaded hole where the screw... isn’t).

So it does. I didn’t pick that up.

The screw on the front of the handle is steel, which would be correct. I don’t recall reading anywhere that the front screw on the handle (only fitted to number 4-1/2” and upwards) was ever made of brass.

Once more you’re right I don’t know why I assumed it was brass, but in my defence, I haven’t ever seen one that shiny before.

Lever cap damaged, frog screw missing, replacement handle and effectively no blade pretty much means its value isn’t too far away from the starting bid price.

That auction site isn’t the busiest, and many items get re-listed week after week. Many items in the tool section will go at the starting price with only one bid, although there are a few sellers who go with a R1 starting price to generate some bidding. I’ve won more than one auction at R1.

My feeling is that he’ll eventually get a bidder at the starting price but it may take a while. I don’t have a #6, and wouldn’t mind getting one just for the sake of it, but I’d be looking for a bargain before I’d be tempted to bid. I’ve got a nice old (narrow) 5 1/2, and somehow didn’t stop after the first #7. And I actually prefer my #8 - I should probably unload a couple of the #7s.

[Vann]

...everything fits with a type 15...

Except the lever cap, which is type 16 or later (kidney shaped hole).

Cheers, Vann.

[IanW]

Except the lever cap, which is type 16 or later (kidney shaped hole).

Cheers, Vann.

I stand corrected. I did note that feature, but the sequence as I read it didn't get to the shape of the the lever-cap hole before settling at 15. Like any key, you have to use it carefully or you'll get the wrong answer, eh?

Cheers,

[code4pay]

Oh. My.

Stanley Rebate Plane with Marples attachment

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OMG! That is fantastic.

[Simplicity]

OMG! That is fantastic.

O Dear

Cheers Matt,