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7th March 2018, 04:12 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Finished New Shooting Plane Design
Not sure that I mentioned this on this thread, but in riding the feel of relief of making a plane that actually works, I'm post-bombing the three forums that I talk on. I did some in-progress talk on another forum, but I notice that no matter what you're doing, if you build something and you don't fight about it with someone, there's really fairly little interest. Especially if the project doesn't seem accessible to the person who builds little and isn't willing to risk failure a bit.
Apologies if I sound arrogant in the video for saying that the plane matches the LV shooting plane, I was just relieved that it actually worked, and a little bit surprised because I had carefully cut and fit everything, but there's still usually some troubleshooting with a wedged plane.
FWIW, I work almost entirely by hand, which extends to metal. I did use a portaband in a vise, a drill press, and on a couple of things, a small belt sander and grinder (the belt sander can get you in trouble, though, and I may forgo that in the future). The portaband didn't save any time, necessarily (both of these mild steel parts cut and file really easily until you're working the flat faces), but it did save some energy and I'm going to stick with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWZE...lr2zabk0h00410
For those obsessed with neatness, I cleaned the shop the next day and have a clean bench again. I can make (and still work productively within) a monumental mess.
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7th March 2018, 05:41 AM #2
Nice plane. Your camera work combined with the wide angle lens in the earlier parts of the video are vertigo inducers. What camera are you using?
Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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7th March 2018, 05:54 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Samsung phone. I'll try to take that into account and stand still next time I make a video. My camera work is neck and neck with my shop neatness skills, and i'm too cheap to spring for a better setup.
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7th March 2018, 10:20 AM #4
Nice plane, D.W., the body construction is very similar to what I have in mind for a shooting plane. I've got this massive plain blade I want to put to good use. I heard you say the skew angle is 20 degrees - is that correct? Didn't hear you say what the bed angle is, but it looks like 45 - again, is that correct?
I ask because I am trying to decide on the blade geometry for my shooting plane. I was intending to skew the blade but tossing up whether to make it low angle bevel up, or use a 45 degree bevel down configuration. In the latter case, I couldn't decide what skew angle to use. I've just finished a skewed, low-angle shoulder plane with a 15* bed angle & 10* skew relative to the sole), and the mouth has finished at a pretty sharp skew angle. It dawned on me that dropping the bed angle increases the skew of the mouth, & since it's been a long time since I did any serious trigonometry, I took some blocks of wood and planed a couple of mock-ups to confirm that is indeed so.
Seeing your shooting plane working perfectly well with what looks like a 'standard' BD blade configuration is leaning me to the less-challenging higher bed-angle design, so in case I do go that route, am I right that you've used 45 degree bed, & 20 degree skew angles?
Cheers,IW
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7th March 2018, 11:03 AM #5
DW,
Looks like a well made and practical plane. I am even thinking something like that could be my introduction to infills.
I did make a shooting plane about that size in wood but due to it's Kernov construction and some wood movement issues I am thinking its a blade looking for a new home. BTW I can beat you hands down at work space mess.
Regards
John
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IanW; David mentions within the video that the plane is bedded at 40 degrees.
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7th March 2018, 01:55 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Ian - stewie is correct, it's 40 degrees, and yes, a 20 degree skew angle. It works great, but I was a bit of a chicken and went with a quarter inch thick iron and then went to the trouble of giving it taper with hollow (like an 1800s wooden plane iron).
Yes on bevel down being less challenging askew than bevel up, especially if you're working the metal mostly by hand as i do, and especially if you're dovetailing.
Derek convinced me that he's seen better iron life at 40 degrees than common pitch, so I went with that. It turned out (the feel, which you can't see - the solidity, and the certainty of fine adjustment) much better than I expected. The only thing it doesn't shoot well is wide purpleheart endgrain. Nothing will do that with an appreciable shaving, though.
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