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    Default a funny little saw

    I was sawing out some joinery. I selected a backsaw with a small kerf and fine teeth and proceeded. 3 of the cuts exceeded the depth of the saw, so I got out my finest tooth handsaw and finished the cuts with that. it was wider than the backsaw, which caused some binding and tearout. this reminded me of a saw blade I had picked up somewhere. it is a bit of an enigma. 15 points per inch, some 17" long and shaped like a carpenter's saw. I would guess it was meant for a child, but the blade is high quality- double taper ground and just about perfect spring temper hardness. when I got it there was no handle present, so I made one. I have a template for an open handle that fits my hand nicely, so I took off from that. a scrap of figured walnut, just because I had it laying around, some sawing, drilling, chiseling, rasping, sanding and shellacking and I had a handle. a round of jointing, filing and setting and it is ready for a trial cut:


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    It certainly peeled that banana nicely!

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    You made a saw just for working on bananas - wow

    actually looks good - wasn't originally a half back was it?
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    You a redditor Bridger?

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    I saw (smirk) no evidence of it ever having a back. I did shorten it a couple of inches to get rid of the holes from the previous handle and reprofile the back line a bit, but not much.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    You made a saw just for working on bananas - wow

    actually looks good - wasn't originally a half back was it?

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    yep. posted it there and at neanderthal haven too.


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    Still have my little saw I got to use as a kid. Doesn't look that nice. I ought to clean it up and pass it on to my Grandson when he gets a little older. He is only 3 but loves tools.

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    These in-between saws can certainly be useful, Bridger. I made myself a 14" 10 tpi rip a while ago & it's the handiest little thing, not taper-ground, unfortunately, but still does a great job on small, thinnish pieces.. Small rip 10tpi.jpg

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    gentlemen

    Is there any reason for the shape of the blades of your respective saws?
    or is that just how they came?
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    mine is *mostly* how it came. I took a little off of the back near the handle getting it to fair in.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    gentlemen

    Is there any reason for the shape of the blades of your respective saws?
    or is that just how they came?

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    that's a pretty little thing, there. what wood is the handle?

    there are so many old saws floating around with taper ground plates and damage like a kink or a crack about 1/3 of the way up from the toe and handle problems that can be used as steel donors that personally I would have a hard time justifying purchasing new steel to make smaller saws. but then I'm not making them to sell...


    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    These in-between saws can certainly be useful, Bridger. I made myself a 14" 10 tpi rip a while ago & it's the handiest little thing, not taper-ground, unfortunately, but still does a great job on small, thinnish pieces.. Small rip 10tpi.jpg

    Cheers,

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    If you are not a wood carver, you might not appreciate the broad usefulness of a "small" handsaw.
    I need one, maybe 12" long, quite stiff, the width of the kerf isn't an issue for rough-outs.

    Do you suppose I could begin with something economical, like a Stanley "Sharptooth," and cut it down?
    Or, might I look in garage sales for starting material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridger View Post
    I did shorten it a couple of inches to get rid of the holes from the previous handle and reprofile the back line a bit, but not much.
    Serious this time bridger, how did you go drilling new holes for the new handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    gentlemen

    Is there any reason for the shape of the blades of your respective saws?
    or is that just how they came?
    Nick, mine started out as an oblong chunk of steel. I shaped it to what I thought looked 'right' at the time. If I made another one, it would probably be a different shape. I've only made a few non-backed saws & I'm still exploring shapes. My thinking is to try to reduce the width of as much of the saw as practicable to reduce friction, as well as get a pleasing shape. The saw above needs more off, I reckon, but it works fine, so I'll probably leave it alone. I don't yet know how much I can shave off the toe end without losing stiffness to the point where it gets whippy. Anyone who has used a very worn down old saw will know what I mean....

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    the steel in those is fine. I wouldn't go that route unless the saw was free. I'd start with a saw that had a tooth configuration as close to what I wanted to end up with as I could get, and the sharptooth pattern is for green wood AFAICT. for my purposes I'd have to grind the whole toothline off and retooth- those induction hardened teeth are not sharpenable with a file. plus, $10 is too much when I can buy far superior vintage saws at yard sales for $1 to $5.



    Quote Originally Posted by Robson Valley View Post
    If you are not a wood carver, you might not appreciate the broad usefulness of a "small" handsaw.
    I need one, maybe 12" long, quite stiff, the width of the kerf isn't an issue for rough-outs.

    Do you suppose I could begin with something economical, like a Stanley "Sharptooth," and cut it down?
    Or, might I look in garage sales for starting material?

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